Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 04/17/2009 10:17:36 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-51 next last
To: RED SOUTH

With respect to the possibility of secession by mutual agreement, we are left in much the same position that Americans in the first seven decades of the Union occupied with respect to unilateral secession: We must struggle to interpret the sounds of the Constitution’s silence.

That conclusion in turn suggests that no court will likely answer the question—except perhaps in the way that the Supreme Court in Texas v. White gave its retroactive approval to the verdict of the Civil War battlefield.


2 posted on 04/17/2009 10:18:34 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

Nothing prohibits them from leaving. They just can’t form a confederation.


5 posted on 04/17/2009 10:20:28 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH
Actually in all practicality the states may soon discover what the Federal Gummint already has. You can do anything you can get away with.

Μολών λαβέ


8 posted on 04/17/2009 10:21:01 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

I’m not a Constitutional Scholar, but when I was in school, I was taught that both California and Texas had the right to secede from the union. This right was incorporated into the treaty between the California Republic and the US when California joined the union. Texas is in a similar situation as the only other nation to voluntarily join the US.

That being said, I think it would be a stupid idea.


12 posted on 04/17/2009 10:22:48 AM PDT by MS from the OC ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

Ummm, didn’t we settle this question, oh, around 144 years ago?


14 posted on 04/17/2009 10:23:20 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

Article V authorizes a Constitutional Convention. No result of the convention becomes law unless 3/4ths of the sates ratify it. Anyone care to guess whether or not 3/4th of the states in this country are more conservative (well, republican) or more liberal communist?


16 posted on 04/17/2009 10:23:38 AM PDT by SwankyC (Please stand by - The Patriot Act can and will be used against all of you right wing extremists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

A few states tried this a while back.

It ended rather badly.


18 posted on 04/17/2009 10:24:15 AM PDT by RobRoy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: manc; GOP_Raider; TenthAmendmentChampion; snuffy smiff; slow5poh; EdReform; TheZMan; ...

Dixie ping


20 posted on 04/17/2009 10:25:09 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH
Does not, then, the 10th Amendment kick in? Saying that any rights not enumerated in the Constitution are left TO THE STATES?

Meaning, the States have a right to secede.

23 posted on 04/17/2009 10:26:44 AM PDT by caddie ("Every cat is a masterpiece." -- Leonardo da Vinci)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

I think far too many forget our history, not just in Texas, but also in the United States.

See tagline.


26 posted on 04/17/2009 10:27:25 AM PDT by SouthTexas (When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH
The constitution does not say anything about states leaving.

Indeed it does:

Amendment 10 - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

27 posted on 04/17/2009 10:27:53 AM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

We have a nation here. It is going through problems right now. And it bothers me some of the tactics that are being used in reaction to those problems.

I live in California. California has problems. And because of those problems many of my fellow citizens moved out of the state. I don’t want people to take this personally, but isn’t that cutting and running? Is that how we turn things around? Hell no.

When people run from problems, those problems flourish. And when one state goes south, it affects other states.

Right now we have talk of states pulling out of the union. Is that really what we have come to? Is that really the future we see for our beloved nation, surrendering vast areas of our nation to our enemies?

Whatever happened to preaching our values to the American Citizen and winning them back over? Whatever happened to telling the public education system it isn’t going to propagandize our children on our tax dollars? Whatever happened to telling the government that it isn’t going to get away with flood groups like ACORN with our tax dollars so they can carry out political activity? Whatever happened to demanding, not asking that our rights be respected?

What bothers me, is that we are backing ourselves into a corner by choice, making smaller the base of our operations. Is that really what our goal should be?

Folks, our founding fathers didn’t pick one state and defend it. They worked within the full thirteen colonies and defended the whole rather than surrender to a superior force?

What is the cut and run stuff? What is the secession stuff?

Surrender? No way...


28 posted on 04/17/2009 10:27:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH
The BIG question lately - CAN STATES SECEDE?

This question was answered on a Palm Sunday back in 1865...and the South suffered a cruel occupation reconstruction because of it.

33 posted on 04/17/2009 10:30:50 AM PDT by meandog (There are bad no dogs, only bad owners--the only good bad owner is one mauled by a good bad dog!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

I think were any State to actually Secede, the citizenry would find it a VERY expensive post-partum.


43 posted on 04/17/2009 10:36:38 AM PDT by FreedomFerret
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Balkans

secession ping


44 posted on 04/17/2009 10:36:44 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH
The bigger question....what can stop them?
48 posted on 04/17/2009 10:38:32 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (As 0bama punishes us, we are punishing his supporters ten fold.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH
It seems to me the more prudent question is not if a state can secede, but should a state secede?

Any thoughtful person is going to realize they have a better chance of reforming our government than trying to establish a new nation. Any state that successfully seceded would immediately become a haven for every enemy of the U.S.

51 posted on 04/17/2009 10:40:38 AM PDT by armymarinedad (Support, v., To take the side of; to uphold or help.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


56 posted on 04/17/2009 10:42:49 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Typical "Rightwing Extremist")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

The short answer is no.


59 posted on 04/17/2009 10:43:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: RED SOUTH

If Texas can, then I’m moving there and no, I don’t think I’m kidding!!


60 posted on 04/17/2009 10:44:45 AM PDT by DeLaine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-51 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson