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Today is Friday, April 17, Virginia Secedes.
on this day.com ^ | April 17, 2009 | Va house of delegates

Posted on 04/17/2009 5:58:13 AM PDT by central_va

Today is Friday, April 17, 2009

Today in U.S. Civil War History

1861 - Virginia left the Union. Within the next 5 weeks Arkansas, Tennessee, and North Carolina seceded bringing the total of Confederate states to eleven.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: anniversary; deovindice; dixie; northernaggression; secession; virginia; virginiahistory
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To: stuartcr

“Sounds like in war, which side is right or wrong, is relative.”

sometimes both sides are wrong. Who was right, and who was wrong in the war between the Soviets and the Nazis, the Indians and the Pakistanis, the Romans and the Persians, the Egyptians and the Hittites?


41 posted on 04/20/2009 9:55:51 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: central_va

“Yankees are afraid somebody is going to escape, “can’t have that, we’ll go down the socialist toilet togeter”. “

Either we hang together, or we hang separately.


42 posted on 04/20/2009 9:57:48 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Gopher Broke

“Virginia seceeds on April 17....my birthday...what a wonderful present!!”

You’re free to secede, with your current liberal governor in charge. Best of luck to you.


43 posted on 04/20/2009 9:59:43 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

Or even the reformation? Does this mean that those that participate in unjust wars, are guilty of murder?


44 posted on 04/20/2009 12:21:09 PM PDT by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: stuartcr

“Does this mean that those that participate in unjust wars, are guilty of murder?”

How did that particular thought enter the conversation, and what does it have to do with the price of peas in Patagonia? The question at hand was if there is always a right side and a wrong side in a war, and I mentioned examples of wars in which both sides could be judged to be wrong. I’m not sure if one can find a war in which both sides are totally right, but I’m sure that in most wars, both sides may believe that.

To the extent that someone participates in an unjust war, how guilty of murder he is, the Nuremburg trial records might yield some answers, but I haven’t the time to research them. Perhaps, since you asked the question, you could do the research.


45 posted on 04/20/2009 1:08:37 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: stuartcr

“Sounds like in war, which side is right or wrong, is relative.”

An additional thought in reply to your post, one of Rush Limbaugh’s undeniable truths of life - “There is no such thing as a war atrocity. War is the ultimate atrocity.”


46 posted on 04/20/2009 1:11:08 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

I entered it, obviously. Seems to fit into the right or wrongness of a war, besides, it was discussed earlier this month.

I don’t think research is required, just a yes or no opinion.


47 posted on 04/21/2009 7:14:07 AM PDT by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: stuartcr

no. it’s not relative.


48 posted on 04/21/2009 8:04:18 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

If both sides can be judged to be wrong or right, how is the rightness or wrongness not relative to the judgement or the person doing the judging?


49 posted on 04/21/2009 8:07:56 AM PDT by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: stuartcr

Are you saying that you believe that there is no absolute standard of right and wrong?


50 posted on 04/21/2009 8:10:18 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

Yes. I believe we strive for it, and each individual has their own which they very often believe is or should be universal, but it is not.


51 posted on 04/21/2009 8:19:13 AM PDT by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: stuartcr

I was right. You are a liberal.


52 posted on 04/21/2009 11:12:41 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

*???*


53 posted on 04/21/2009 11:23:53 AM PDT by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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