Posted on 04/16/2009 7:05:31 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
Washington (CNN) - Steve Schmidt, a key architect of John McCain's presidential campaign, is making his first public return to Washington a bold one.
Schmidt will use a speech Friday to Log Cabin Republicans, a gay rights group, to urge conservative Republicans to drop their opposition to same-sex marriage, CNN has learned.
"There is a sound conservative argument to be made for same-sex marriage," Schmidt will say, according to speech excerpts obtained by CNN. "I believe conservatives, more than liberals, insist that rights come with responsibilities. No other exercise of one's liberty comes with greater responsibilities than marriage."
(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...
How about this. “I do not want to hire a Jew because they are Christ killers and I do not want my employees exposed to that filth...’(or whatever reason)
I do not want want to hire Catholics because they cause inquisitions and look the other way when priests molest kids ...”( or whatever)
Religious choice is a behavior, which one can change (like homosexuality): should one be able to discriminate on those grounds?
I’m just testing the boundaries of your decision rules
I am not sure if I am creeped out or flattered that you are so interested in me. I must have hit a nerve, showing how too many “conservatives” favor only favor freedom when it forwards their own agenda
I agree I make extreme cases, but that is where the interesting debate lies
basic freedoms exist to protect unpopular minorities; the Founding Fathers understood this. If a particular county/town (or whatever) is 50.01% Muslim, should they be able to impose Sharia? That would be majority rule. Should “activist” judges prohibit this. I think so.
You have not hit a nerve, I just have no tolerance for idiocy with the mask of “small government” on it.
Freedom does not mean license.
Edmund Burke, a great thinker, said this:
“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put mural chains on their own appetites. Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there is without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
If you want to posit a majority of Muslims in the US, then you are truly a lost cause.
would you please answer my question? I know it is an extreme case but it is instructive
so do you favor banning alcohol and tobacco? How about doughnuts, soda and potato chips? All those are consumed to excess at great social cost. If not, what is your decision rule? I don’t see consistency or principle
“If this is a God-given right, then you’d have to argue the same for Polygamy.”
The argument for polygamy - widely practiced in ancient Israel, almost no condemnation of it in the Bible, still widely practiced around the world, practiced by many or most animals - is far stronger than for homosexuality.
It is hard to argue that there is ANYTHING natural about sticking one’s penis inside a man’s butt.
Can you imagine this being discussed at the Constitutional Convention? “George Washington, what do YOU think about fudge-packing? Yea, or Nay?”
Since you an attention whore and have no desire to discuss this or most likely any topic rationally, I’m not going to respond to you any more. You should debate with my quote from Edmund Burke.
I would also recommend leaving the bong aside for a while, it’ll do you good.
Thanks for the victory confirmation, you obviously have no rational arguments, just name calling. Have a good day
seems to me the fault in your anecdote lies with the one who does not commit to heterosexual marriage Should Rush (or should have Reagan) been barred from adoption as divorcees?
I’m so sorry for your loss. To me, it seems even harder to lose someone due to the choices they make in life. It is so incredibly sad when it happens, whatever that choice is. We hurt for them when they are here, and it all feels so senseless when we lose them.
ah you finished with little, had a bong now it is my turn for your amusement
what on earth are you on about, are you high or something
lets get this straight right now.
I have told you that I knew a kid who killed himself because of the house he grew up in with two homo women and who he was adopted by.
you can believe it or not I frankly couldn’t care less but I know what is wrong with homos , so don’t give me this crap about small Govt, you sound like a broken record, with your past posts.
Plus the founding fathers never said their should be no laws, or rules .
If you do not have certain laws, like traditional marriage then you have anarchy.
You have every idiot coming out the woodwork with what they think is marriage
you may not like that but that is a fact
now go and have another bong.
After all you voted for a guy who thinks we should not have any kind of dept like the CIA, FBI, yes your man ron paul said that
your young am I right?
you take drugs am I right?
you know homos because you grew up with some at school but you never actually sat down and thought about what they exactly do have you?
Then you think homos should force their lifestyle on us and yes I lived in MA where I have seen it first hand
you go on their freak parades by all means and see how they act because I guarantee that when you get older, you pay taxes and have kids with things like a house to pay for you will not have the same view as you do now .
not hard to see now why Palin was so beaten on by McCain folks in the campaign
sorry to hear
I knew a kid from the foster home I was in and he ended up killing himself due to being with homosexuals
That is the reason why I fight tooth and nail to stop children being used in their social agenda
again I am so sorry to hear about your brother
I don’t like McCain either but you’re utterly full of shite about men in prison.
The only white guys in prison who go queer were queer to start with.
Blacks use homosexual rape as a weapon/pleasure more common than any group in the joint, whites rarely.
Mexicans ditto, not as much as blacks, it’s frowned on by the machismo cholo..
Going to prison turns nobody queer unless they already were....raped or not.
Geez....you really think in prisoner of war camps that men struggling to get home to their loved ones naturally came to bugger one another?
You don’t know how real men work.
this is what I can glean from your poor grammar
your (sic) young am I right (that’d be “you’re”, by the way, not “your”)?
mid forties, married, two kids, doctoral degree, gainfully employed. So yes, quite young, thanks.
you take drugs am I right?
Yup: coffee every day, tea if I need a mid day pick me up, beer some weekends. aspirin when my head hurts, antibiotics when I get an infection...
you know homos because you grew up with some at school but you never actually sat down and thought about what they exactly do have you?
I know many: they are fine neighbors, cause me no trouble at all. They raise kids, work, pay taxes, go to concerts, play softball, help me push my car out of the snow when it gets stuck. They are mostly like any other Americans. I do not really pry into their sex lives. Why are you so fascinated by it?
Then you think homos should force their lifestyle on us and yes I lived in MA where I have seen it first hand
I think, as science suggests, people are born gay, so you must mean rape which I of course oppose. Otherwise I support the pursuit of freedom and happiness among consenting adults; as long as one does no other direct harm, they should be free to associate with whom they see fit.
I do not think anyone chooses to be gay or straight. We do not choose to whom we are attracted. Did you rationally, step by step, choose fall in love with your spouse? I did not.
I probably know 50 gay and lesbian people. Not a single one has ever tried to “make me gay”, if that is even possible.
I think government should stay out of the marriage business altogether
My marriage is sacred because I swore before God, my family and friends to love honor and cherish. What gay or other straight people has no effect on it. Even thrice divorced Rush Limbaugh, divored Saint Ronald Reagan or married for five minutes Brittany Spears cannot make my marriage any less scared. My wife and I have complete control over it.
what are you on about ? I never said about your grammar or spelling
you seriously need to get off the drugs kid, they’re affecting your mind.
as for the rest of your diatribe then if you think that people are born homosexuals then you seriously need to think about what site you’re on.
I would suggest you go to the I www.lovehomos.com
Just a quick note as I breezed through that crap you posted.
You know 50 homos, I couldn’t give a rats, arse if you 500, they are sick perverts who do sick acts to each other.
That is their right but do not even try and tell me that their agenda should not be fought
I would say get on a liberal website with your views but the truth is I have seen who you voted for and read your past posts
You think this is a game, victory confirmation,
honestly grow up you’re acting and talking like a queer
to add.
your pro homo, pro drug, pro everything liberal is astounding .
I have seen a kid kill himself because he was in a house of queers
do you understand that at all or do you seriously live in fairy never never land like san fran or parts of VT
Another poster had his brother die form his homosexual ways
you might not see it but sure as hell others can see it so go and have those homos push your car out of the drive way or what ever you like to do them
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