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Ex-McCain aide to call for gay marriage support [Steve Schmidt] [says is a God-given right]
CNN - Political Ticker ^ | 2009-04-16

Posted on 04/16/2009 7:05:31 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: MoreGovLess

Look, you’re either free or you’re not.

Look. If you can not be free to be a cretin, you are not free.

And if you utter fighting words to a Catholic or a Jew or a Hindu or a Green-Blue-Black-Yellow person and he gives you a crack in the jaw, don’t come crying to the government for protection.

You reap what you sow.


101 posted on 04/17/2009 12:25:04 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: little jeremiah
race - which one is born with

If Michael Jackson ends up in court again, then the task of seating a jury that has never heard of him has begun. One down, eleven to go....

102 posted on 04/17/2009 12:31:22 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Westbrook

Yeah, basically I agree.


103 posted on 04/17/2009 12:42:30 PM PDT by MoreGovLess (Seek justice, love kindness, walk humbly with your God (Micah))
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To: manc

my point is that in 1787, interracial marriage was even more reviled and utterly unthinkable than same sex marriage is now


104 posted on 04/17/2009 12:44:28 PM PDT by MoreGovLess (Seek justice, love kindness, walk humbly with your God (Micah))
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To: MoreGovLess

you missed the point


105 posted on 04/17/2009 1:13:58 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

no, I believe you miss the point. Marriage is not all about procreation: it is a contract that affords certain rights and responsibilities (including but not limited to) visitation rights in hospitals, inheritance of estate, joint ownership of property).

Why should I not be able to enter into such a contract with whomever (consenting adult)I choose. If your religion forbids it, it need not support or conduct it. I do not believe any gays say the Mormon church must conduct gay weddings (not any taken seriously by anyone, anyway)

Someone against inter-racial marriage 230 years ago would have been just as certain the Bible forbids it, just as grossed out, just as certain our whole way of life would crumble, felt just as threatened and under siege as you do with gay marriage...if not more so.


106 posted on 04/17/2009 1:23:05 PM PDT by MoreGovLess (Seek justice, love kindness, walk humbly with your God (Micah))
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To: MoreGovLess

I’ve never knows a single African-American who decided to change their skin color to white. Yet there are thousands of homosexuals who left that unhealthy lifestyle and no longer have same-sex attraction disorder. There is a huge difference between skin color and some chosen deviant sexual fetish.


107 posted on 04/17/2009 1:25:14 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: MoreGovLess

still don’t get it do you, I am not religious why bring the bible?
You then today said about grammar but I did not point yours out.
You’re brain is fried

still you did want a man to win who thinks we should not have depts like the CIA and FBI

go and play with your homo friends you like that
I’ll help you
I’;ll give you time to answer the past question too

one couple who are a different color can marry and have kids

one couple cannot

guess which couple can have kids

one can have kids, and guess what the man can teach his son to be a man and the mother is there for comfort, help too.

you seriously are on the wrong site to push your homosexuality agenda,

enjoy it while it lasts


108 posted on 04/17/2009 1:40:26 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: DesertRenegade

this poster who is pushing their homo agenda is certainly a troll, when you look at their posts you’ll find that he has seriously fried his brain with all those drugs he has been taking

he just keeps missing the point about a white and black and two of the same sex

sad really, I only hope that when he grows up he gets to grips with reality


109 posted on 04/17/2009 1:42:11 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: MoreGovLess

LOL

you’re fried yea the foiunding fathers would have looked down on different colors marrying more so than two of the same sex

you need to get off that bong


110 posted on 04/17/2009 1:43:19 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: rabscuttle385

Mr. Schmidt, here’s my response to your assertions.

1. Since the dawn of time, God has disapproved of, and clearly condemned, homosexuality. And He has done this under 3 different sets of laws or covenants.

A. In the Patriarical Age, it was condemned. See Genesis 18-19.

B. Under the law of Moses it was condemned. See Leviticus 20

C. Presently, under the law of Christ it is condemned. See 1 Corinthians 6

God does not approve of homosexuality. No way, no how. Never has. For you, or anyone else, to assert that he has, or does, flies in the face of clear, unequivical scripture.

2. As a nation of laws that has been duly constituted by “We the people”, we have a right to regulate/outlaw BEHAVIOR that we believe is detrimental to the social order of our society.

The CONSERVATIVE thing to do is to honor the US Constitution and stop making laws from the bench. If you want a contitutionally protected right to poke your pee-pee in a poop-hole, then submit a Constitutional Amendment to Congress and see if it will get sent to the states for ratification.


111 posted on 04/17/2009 1:59:37 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: MoreGovLess

We are not a theocracy, so “WE THE PEOPLE” have to come to an agreement on what is accepted social behavior.

THE US Constitution does NOT grant homosexuals any rights or recognition. Homosexuallity is BEHAVIOR oriented and is only identifiable by BEHAVIOR.

“WE THE PEOPLE” do not condone that behavior. If you the homosexuals)don’t like that, tough. Introduce legislation and get a constitutional amendment passed by the states. Until then, get back in the closet because I don’t want to know about your perverted lifestyle.


112 posted on 04/17/2009 2:11:28 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: MoreGovLess
"I do not really pry into their sex lives. Why are you so fascinated by it?"

BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONE INSISTING ON PARADING THEIR SEXUAL ACTIVITIES IN FRONT OF EVERYONE AND WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED BY YOUR SEXUAL DEVIANCY!!! WE ARE NOT THE ONES BRINGING THIS INTO THE PUBLIC!!!!!

113 posted on 04/17/2009 2:18:43 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: MoreGovLess

Sorry, BS. Pocahantas and SMith married, in, IIRC, the 17th century. The punishment for homosexual acts by men at that time was execution. Jefferson amended that in VA to, again IIRC, castration and banishment. No such punishments for inter-racial marriage.

And as usual, you ignore any rational debate and cling to false statements and pathetic slogans.

You are totally full of lies and idiocy.


114 posted on 04/17/2009 3:54:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Aham Brahmasmi - I am eternal soul)
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To: manc

I don’t think he’s missing the boat so much as he destroyed his brain and cannot think critically, but has memorized slogans that appeal to his baser desires.


115 posted on 04/17/2009 3:56:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Aham Brahmasmi - I am eternal soul)
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To: MoreGovLess

You make unproven assertions, over and over again. As though there were no interracial marriges or common law marriages for the hundreds of years during the formation of this country. Throughout history there have been examples of interracial and international and interethnic marriages. But a “marriage” between two people of the same sex is purely a modern deviation and invention. It is against nature, reason, health, tradtion, every religion of hte word, psychology, and plumbing.


116 posted on 04/17/2009 3:58:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Aham Brahmasmi - I am eternal soul)
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To: little jeremiah

all he keeps saying is less Govt small Govt it’s like a bumper sticker to him.
one would think he would know what the constitution is about and what it says.


117 posted on 04/17/2009 4:03:07 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: rabscuttle385

We’ve had the Tea Parties, now ne need to purget the party of RINOs.


118 posted on 04/17/2009 4:50:51 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: MoreGovLess; manc; 185JHP; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; Agitate; AliVeritas; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; ...
my point is that in 1787, interracial marriage was even more reviled and utterly unthinkable than same sex marriage is now

In 1787 interracial marriage MAY have been illegal, but interracial sexual relations between white men and black women were openly tolerated though seldom acknowledged (Thomas Jefferson's relationship with Sally Hemings was hardly a secret).

Homosexuality was a serious crime in ALL states at the time of the founding and a CAPITAL CRIME in many states.

If you care to see what our Founding Fathers (including George Washington) and other great minds of that age REALLY thought about homosexuality, I suggest you read this:

The Founders on Homosexuality

119 posted on 04/17/2009 5:07:11 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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bump!


120 posted on 04/17/2009 5:10:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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