i must be the only one who doesnt like the idea of states seceding...
The question of whether or not Texas, or any other state, may secede was settled at Appomatax Court House in 1865.
>>i must be the only one who doesnt like the idea of states seceding...<<
I think the headline is misleading - the governor didn’t say he wanted to secede - he said it was a right. Secession exists only as an extreme after all else has failed - not simply after a bad election.
If it could be done peacefully, then would you be in favor of it?
Nope...it’s sedition pure and simple. Perry is a fool. I am embarrassed over some of this stuff.
The governor of Texas is a world class political opportunist. This time I think he may have shot his mouth off just a bit too much. Perhaps the AG in Texas or a U.S. Attorney could remind the governor of the penalty for treason in this country and a history teacher from the local junior high could drop him a memo on what happened the last time some governors thought states had the right to secede from the Union.
No, you’re not alone. And I live in Texas. A fun daydream, perhaps, but it would require more sacrifice than I think most would be willing to endure.
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
I think what folks outside Texas miss is that while Texans are stubborn, they ain't stupid. We tried secession back in 1861. Didn't work out so well — even though Texas was the only state that chased the North out of the state by the end of the “late unpleasantness.”
Nah. If it comes to fightin’ over preserving American freedoms, Texas won't secede. Rather, it will lead the liberation of the rest of the US of A. Even though — just like when we liberated Iraq — there may be some opposing liberation.
We'll just borrow what helped the North win the “late unpleasantness.” There will be those willing to fight for liberty and union in the “serf” states, just like the North raised hundreds of thousands of troops from the slave states during the “late unpleasantness.” May even help form an “East California” out of the red part of that state - just like the United States got West Virginia as a result of the “late unpleasantness.” (That will give us San Diego as a port for the navy on the left coast.)
It will be “Texas! Liberty! and Union!” and we will make “Battle Cry of Freedom” our theme song.
Go to the DU, SFGate, the HuffPO... read the comments there.
Then ask yourself: Can I convince these people of *anything*? Is there a middle ground with which we can begin to build a common understanding? Is there *any* way our side can compromise with theirs in any area?
Will they give up? Will they bend? Will they concede *anything*?
Are you willing to bend where they want you to? Are you ready to accept a Socialist America? Are you willing to concede your liberty, your children’s liberty, because you don’t want to get dirty?
Then ask yourself this: How can we avoid a bloody civil war?
Our nation is more polarized than it has ever been, including pre-Civil War. Neither side is willing to give an inch. (The right *has* given an inch, then another inch, then a mile and we ended up with McCain. We’re loosing the war against the Statist precisely because we *have* compromised so much in the past. They’ve used those inches to march this country right up to the cliff.)
Personally, I believe that secession is the only way to avoid a Civil War. I don’t think that Texas is the only state that will take the side of the American Constitution, though it may be the first.
I think that most Americans are content to take the wait-and-see approach, at least until the next election. (Including me.) We’re not there yet, but we’re frighteningly close. Right now, we need to fight back with our voices and computers. We need to get the word out. We need to try to take the power from the Statist’s hands the ol’fashioned way - the American way. With debate, peaceful protests and advertising.
But we have to consider that we may fail. We may fail to successfully communicate our message or they may cheat.
Either way, we then have a choice: We can fight, we can surrender or we can attempt to walk away.
Honest Americans who love their country and the Constitution will never surrender. Those of us who really don’t want to kill our confused brothers will choose to walk away (if they’ll let us). Those of us who want to save the whole country will want to fight.
I’m a middle-aged woman. I love my kids. I love other people’s kids. I love our men. I don’t want to fight if we don’t absolutely have to. I’d rather we just have a nice, clean no-fault divorce and let everybody be happy.
This is why I will support secession if and when the time comes: To avoid war and to preserve a tiny bastion of freedom on this little blue planet.