Posted on 04/11/2009 10:44:45 PM PDT by Chet 99
Those kind of solutions are well and good when it is 1 on 1 bullying... but try that when the entire school is on your ass...
Taking care of bullying ought to be a no-brainer now-adays, with the surveillance technology available. What used to be mere accusations can now be backed up with evidence, and the offenders harshly treated (expelled.)
One of my other sons had that problem. We put him into boxing class & he was able to defend himself fairly well. Sadly the mental abuse never seems to leave. Although that son is now 30 he still has issues at times. We got him as an abused teen so there was already damage done. Thankfully he has a wonderful wife & is willing to work through his issues.
She really should have pulled him from the school. I’m not blaming her. But people can’t stand that sort of treatment day in and day out. I am an adult, but I wouldn’t stand for it. Sure, I’d complain, whatever, but if nothing was done, I’d leave.
The poor kid couldn’t leave.
and derail the lifetime gravy train, why?
What a crock. School is for learning. It isn't boxing camp or boot camp. There is no excuse for an 11 year old to get the crap beat out of him to teach him the ways of the world.
Reason #1,678,423 that my kids will NOT go to a goobermint skrewl.
If kids are allowed to “resolve their own conflicts”, we would often end up like a William Burroughs novel, Lord of the Flies. Unfortunately, the parents are often, if anything, worse than their miscreant children. What a remarkably sad story for an 11-year old to think that death is the only real escape from his tormentors. My heart goes out to the family.
Why was rhis kid being taunted and bullied? As much as I hate to say it, some kids set themselves up for it, and the parents fail them, by not teaching them how to respond to it.
I would be nice of some one started a web site that these kids could turn to and be able to chat with people who’s been there. I was a bully to this one guy in grade school and I’d get him at recess and one time in the 6th grade I was on top of him with my knees on his arms doing the old thumpem on the chest type of torture and he looked up and there was a bunch of kids standing around and he everyone knows you can kick my ass and at that point it was like the lights came on and I never bullied him or anyone else again. Then came jr high guys would start something in class and it was the old meet me in the park. I learned real quick to say not let do it now and they would chicken out. I was husky for my age I even remember back then that someone made jeans that had a cut for husky guys. But any way when I’d kick these guys butts they alway had a brother just like me a year or two older so they’d sic their brothers on me and I’d have to end up kicking their asses too. But back to the original point of this post these folks need advice from people who’s been there and as they say hind sight is 20/20 and I’m sure a lot of us could give these folks some great advice on how to or what to do when confronted with these bullies.
Your conclusion is not drawn from this thread.
Sadly I’m 100% positive that your vision of “how to respond to it” has nothing to do with what’s happening inside a public shool today.
He couldn’t “fight back” or “stand up for himself” to make the bullies stop no matter how bad it got. It doesn’t happen like that now. Nothing ends with a bloody nose or standing your ground these days it only escalates. The little monsters are not raised to understand the significance of life or self respect. True self respect, as we conservatives think of it, is subdued by the full force of the school system. If he tried to either get the school to help, or to fight back against the bullies themselves, the bad kids just rally together their stories and pin the whole deal on him. The administration of the school WILL happily go along with it and eventually will try to get the victim mentally evaluated. At this point they will try to put him on drugs to help with his “despression” or whatever issue they name it. Suddenly the victim has been turned into the perpetrator of his own problems and has a mental “history” to prove it. His parents won’t have any power to push for changes since their son is now diagnosed with mental issues. Maybe, horribly, unthinkably, since they never go to his school, they end up beliving it. Why would these despicable adults in our school system do this or allow it to happen by their silence? Because it is both easier and more profitable to hide a single victim than to sit down the parents of half a dozen or more bullies and tell them their kids could do a fair imitation of professional torturers. Do you think most parents today would either:
a) Rip their bully brat kid a new one and teach them the consequences of “doing unto others”? or
b) Threaten to sue the school for daring to suggest their child may have a problem with abusing other kids?
We keep living a fairy tale acting like there is some kind of traditional discipline in schools today. Why is this? There is NONE. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different result. There has not been discipline for DECADES. The kids run the asylum. Moral relativism is directly taught in the textbooks. When I was in a public school TWENTY YEARS AGO my class treated a music teacher so badly that before the end of the school year she ran out of the classroom crying and never came back. No punishments, no suspensions or expulsions, no getting to the bottom of what the hell happened. just a short “how do you think she feeeeeeeels” session and then everyone forgets about her and moves on. This was in gradeschool folks just like this kid was. Not even yet to middle school. Amazed? Don’t be. It’s been like this for a very long time. I had to learn to swear like a sailor in fourth grade just to try to fit in. Is your kid in 4th grade? Think they can’t cuss about parts of the anatomy in ways that would make a porn star blush? I bet you are wrong. I could go on for hours.
The public school system breeds monsters and destroys decency.
My kids will never set a single foot inside one of those hellholes.
I love reading stories like that. Thanks for sharing!
I've had people tell me that they would never take part in a demonstration, their boss wouldn't approve, or their customers wouldn't approve, or a number of other chickenshit excuses.
Meanwhile, our kids and grandkids suffer, and our culture is destroyed.
What is more important to you? Maybe we are getting what we deserve, maybe we lack the cajones to deserve better!
Are you going to take April 15 off, or close your business, and take part in the nearest Tea Party demonstration? It will only be a start, but we must start somewhere!
Make up your mind what's important, and do it now!
BUAIDH NO BAS!
“He just needed the law brought down on him (and the boundaries set).”
I’m convinced that this the tragic truth in too many cases where it doesn’t happen.
I am one of those. That does not mean I approved of it or liked it, but being a scrawny kid, it was simply reality.
Now we have "educational" ads showing little boys making speeches about "I do not want to fight you" as being the correct way of defusing a bullying situation. It does not work, and instead, generates contempt.
In one case, a bigger kid would punch me every day in the corridor, and this went on all year, till one day in Spring I went completely beserk and went for his throat.
There was blood.
We were both suspended. During the unsheduled "vacation", he showed up at my house, and I felt it was Round Two.
It was nothing of the sort. That was 49 years ago. We are still friends.
One CANNOT hope it will just go away. Passivity just creates more bullying. It probably has the same basis as terrorism, come to think of it.
“Parents who have their children in government school can be almost certain they do not love their children.”
Cannot argue that, although I’m surprised the bumper-sticker crowd hasn’t got their back up at you yet...like they always do to me.
huh?.... does that mean attend at all?
Sadly the adults are dropping the ball when it comes to teaching these barbarians civilized behavior.
Poor little boy.
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