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1 posted on 04/10/2009 2:27:07 PM PDT by Saint X
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2 posted on 04/10/2009 2:31:37 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Saint X; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; BOBTHENAILER; BIGLOOK; Marine_Uncle; blam; ...
Yes....we have a plan!

This is all part of spewing Terror around the Globe by the Islamists....

Make Obama do something besides use his teleprompter....

3 posted on 04/10/2009 2:32:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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Somalia is a muslim nation. We all know that Obama will not attack a muslim nation. So now what?


4 posted on 04/10/2009 2:33:17 PM PDT by RC2
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6 posted on 04/10/2009 2:33:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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Sorry, wrong President!


7 posted on 04/10/2009 2:33:46 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR. ....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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Add some flamethrowers to the sides of the ships. It will clean the rope-climbers off pretty quickly.


8 posted on 04/10/2009 2:33:54 PM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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Sorry. That makes far too much sense for this cabal of an administration. Try, lets build them some schools and send in medical teams. Maybe in two years or so, they’ll free the skipper.


10 posted on 04/10/2009 2:35:12 PM PDT by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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Well, nothing can happen now until Monday. It’s 5:30 on a Friday afternoon and Obama’s off on weekends.


11 posted on 04/10/2009 2:35:23 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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“The Ransom of Red Chief” is a 1910 short story by O. Henry.

This story tells of a young boy held for ransom by two money hungry criminals, Bill Driscoll and Sam Howard. The two men are fugitives who have escaped to the Deep South searching for an easy way to get their hands on $2,000 they need in order to launch a land fraud scheme in Illinois. They set their sights on the quiet town of Summit, Alabama because of the philoprogenitiveness — love for one’s own children — that they believe is common in rural communities.

Bill and Sam decide they will kidnap the son of an important citizen named Ebenezer Dorset, demand a ransom of $2,000, quickly collect the payoff, and be on their way. However, once they actually kidnap the boy and make their way to a hideout in the nearby hills, their plan quickly begins to unravel. Their young captive, a malevolent, redheaded brat who calls himself Red Chief, actually enjoys his stay with his kidnappers, and thinks he is on a camping trip.

Red Chief proceeds to drive his captors to distraction with pranks and demands that they play wearying games with him, such as pretending to be a scout and using Bill as his horse. Bill and Sam are soon desperate to be rid of the little terror; they lower the price to $1,500 but still receive no answer. They later receive a reply to their ransom letter from Red Chief’s father offering to take the boy off their hands for $250, but when the men bring Red Chief to his home, he does not want to leave. He then tries to stay with the two kidnappers but is held back by his father. The two kidnappers run away as quickly as they can.


Suggest we will take $3,000,000 in return for enough gasoline to get them home.


13 posted on 04/10/2009 2:35:58 PM PDT by ex-snook ( "Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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Far simpler ...declare any speed boats in the shipping lanes off Somalia to be considered to hostile and sunk on sight. Announce that US flagged ship may be carrying armed US troops who are ordered to repel boarders with any means necessary and sink suspected pirate vessels with impunity and that any captured pirates will be summarily returned to the sea with or without boats.


17 posted on 04/10/2009 2:41:51 PM PDT by The Great RJ (chain.)
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Obama is not a legal standing president and it will hold up in any court of justice.

Its time to let our Armed Forces do what they are trained to do. Even if it means going against orders from POTUS, POTUS has no legal authority to command US forces to stand down.


20 posted on 04/10/2009 2:52:48 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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Are there any empty tents Obama can hit with cruise missles?


22 posted on 04/10/2009 2:53:17 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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Ret. Marine Major General Tom Wilkerson: "hit the pirates at their land bases"

What a dumbass! What he suggests, makes sense. Now is not the time for that. We should be looking for the most invertebrate, impotent response possible. Hello...CHANGE?

Yes we can! [/sarcasm]

27 posted on 04/10/2009 3:01:01 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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No.

Go out from the Somali coast line far enough to let Somali fisherman earn their living.

At a few miles past that point, mine the entire coast line, leaving a single shipping lane open to a single Somali port.

Establish an international flotilla at the opening of that lane and task that flotilla with guarding it at the opening and by assigning escorts for legitimate shippers.

If you destroy the pirates shoreline bases, they will simply rebuild them. What you have to do is prevent them from getting to the international shipping lanes, and you do that by making shipping in and out of Somali limited to a single guarded sea lane.


28 posted on 04/10/2009 3:06:03 PM PDT by Wuli
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The article said — “The seizure of the U.S.-flagged ship Maersk Alabama and its American crew by Somali pirates is proof that the Combined Task Force simply can’t fulfill its mission to deter piracy,” Wilkerson explained. “The vastness of the sea makes it too difficult to track pirates. We can’t stop them on water, so we need to take action to eliminate the pirates land-based sanctuary.”

Well, keep in mind the previous Presidents and their “Crises” that they had to deal with. I’m not sure how much “killing” and “hostages” the American public will want to see for a certain “crisis”...


Here’s a comparison of other Presidential Crises, with American hostage-taking and military/civilians killed (various actions against our civilians and/or actions that we took in response to such crises. It’s a good comparison for what is going on today, as to what has happened in the past with other Presidents...


Presidential Crises - Hostages and/or Killings of Military and Civilians

Johnson — Killed (34), USS Liberty, Israel
Johnson — Hostages (82/1 Killed), USS Pueblo, 11 months, North Korea
Ford — Hostages (21), SS Mayaguez, Cambodia
Carter — Hostages (52), Tehran Embassy Hostages, 444 days, Iran
Carter — Killed (8), Operation Eagle Claw, C-130, Iran
Reagan — Killed (241), Marine barracks bombing, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Hostages (20), Islamic Terrorist Hostages, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (5), Islamic Terrorist Killings, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (37), USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31), Iraq
Clinton — Killed (6), 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Clinton — Killed (168), Oklahoma City Bombing, Domestic Terrorists, U.S.A.
Clinton — Killed (19), Black Hawk Down, Somalia
Clinton — Killed (17), USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67), Al Qaeda, at port in Yemen
Clinton — Killed (142), TWA Flight 800, Terrorism [controversial*], Terrorists
Bush — Hostages (24), Hainan Island incident (EP-3 Aries), 11 days, China
Bush — Killed (2,998), 9/11 Attack, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Obama — Hostages (1), Somalian pirates, ongoing currently...

Johnson — USS Liberty Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Johnson — USS Pueblo Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)
Ford — SS Mayaguez Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayagüez_incident
Carter — Iranian Hostage Crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
Carter — Operation Eagle Claw (rescue) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw
Reagan — Marine Barracks bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
Reagan — Hostages in Lebanon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
Reagan — USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_(FFG-31)
Clinton — 1993 World Trade Center Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
Clinton — Oklahoma City Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
Clinton — Black Hawk Down - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)
Clinton — USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
Clinton — TWA Flight 800 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800
[*controversial - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800_alternative_theories - http://twa800.com/ ]
Bush — Hainan Island incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
Bush — 9/11 Attack - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11

Please help add more so I can update this. If there is another event that happened within a particular President’s term (hostages taken, military killed in actions regarding the crisis, etc...), give me the info and any pertinent links. Still working on it and adding information...


29 posted on 04/10/2009 3:20:37 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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BS, the navy has enough keep it's ship's from running aground are into each other.
32 posted on 04/10/2009 3:54:27 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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The richest pirates live in big houses, drive big cars and otherwise provide identifiable targets.

A little midnight drone action, please.


33 posted on 04/10/2009 4:20:22 PM PDT by aculeus
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