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EDITORIAL: Barack Takes A Bow: The President Shows Fealty To A Muslim King
The Washington Times ^
| April 09, 2009
Posted on 04/09/2009 8:44:34 PM PDT by Steelfish
EDITORIAL: Barack takes a bow The president shows fealty to a Muslim king
April 7, 2009.
In a shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate, President Obama bowed to Saudi King Abdullah at the Group of 20 summit in London last week.
Mr. Obama later said in Strasbourg, France, "We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect." Symbolism is important in world affairs. By bending over to show greater respect to Islam, the U.S. president belittled the power and independence of the United States.
The bow was an extraordinary protocol violation. Such an act is a traditional obeisance befitting a king's subjects, not his peer. There is no precedent for U.S. presidents bowing to Saudi or any other royals.
Former President Franklin D. Roosevelt shook hands with Saudi King Abdulaziz in February 1945. Granted, Mr. Roosevelt was wheelchair-bound, but former President Dwight D. Eisenhower shook hands when he first met King Saud in January 1957.
Mr. Obama's bow to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques does not help his image with those who believe he is secretly a Muslim, and why he chose to bow only to the Saudi King and not to any other royals remains unexplained.
No Americans of any station are required to bow to royalty. It is one of the pillars of American exceptionalism that our country rejected traditional caste divisions. Article I Section 9 of the Constitution forbids titles of nobility and stipulates that no officeholder or government employee may "accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state" without the consent of Congress.
Judith Martin wrote in her Miss Manners column in 2001 that bowing "is not an ordinary bit of foreign etiquette
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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; obamabow; obowma; saudiking
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posted on
04/09/2009 8:44:34 PM PDT
by
Steelfish
To: Steelfish
Most real AMERICANS would have backed up to the King with the pants down around their ankles and then bowed.
2
posted on
04/09/2009 8:49:02 PM PDT
by
FlingWingFlyer
(So Orwell was off by 25 years! So what!)
To: Steelfish
Dear Mr. President,
Us grown up countries don't have Kings and since only God is king we should reserve our bowing for him only.
You are, God help us, the head of state of the United States of America, we bow to no one. Stand tall for crying out loud.
Sincerely,
JPF
PS Nothing personal sir, but you're turning out to be more of an idiot than I feared.
J
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posted on
04/09/2009 8:57:52 PM PDT
by
jpf
(Obama's been President for like 15 minutes and I'm a better person already.)
To: Steelfish
None Hail to the Bootlicking Saudi Pretender.
4
posted on
04/09/2009 9:01:01 PM PDT
by
an amused spectator
(Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz's lawn jockey doesn't speak Austrian)
To: Steelfish
This is from April 7, not April 9, correct? If so, it has already been posted.
5
posted on
04/09/2009 9:07:42 PM PDT
by
Plutarch
To: Steelfish
Take note muslim are told to bow to muslim person in power as a sign of respect. Obama: Ohhh a quarter. Hello King Abdullah.
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posted on
04/09/2009 9:10:04 PM PDT
by
joshua1222
("... give Obama a filibuster proof majority ..." Bill Clinton)
To: Steelfish
"Mr. Obama's bow to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques does not help his image with those who believe he is secretly a Muslim, and why he chose to bow only to the Saudi King and not to any other royals remains unexplained."Looks kinda straightforward to me.
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posted on
04/09/2009 9:13:27 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
To: Steelfish
obama bowed to his superior.
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posted on
04/09/2009 9:28:40 PM PDT
by
allmost
To: Steelfish
If bowing to a world leader is A-OK, why didn’t Abdullah bow in return?
9
posted on
04/09/2009 9:59:02 PM PDT
by
syriacus
(If we outlaw nukes, only outlaws will have nukes.)
To: Steelfish
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.
The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.
Listen to the
recording here
The quote is around 12:35, so if you dont have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:
Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born
Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive
Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there
Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.
Here is an
abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.
It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --youll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.
First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.
Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.
He used the same technique on the question of Obamas birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."
Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.
Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.
Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference.
Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..
They are the same.
Subsequently, the
Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:
"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."
However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.
"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."
While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is
a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in in her village in Kenya There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in her town but rather that he is a "son of this village". If taken alone, she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.
Again here is a
pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:
HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA
Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.
(Applause)
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.
Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.
The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Rather he spends -- now over a million -- on flaks. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)
Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.
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posted on
04/09/2009 9:59:10 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: allmost
He bowed to thank the King for creating $4 a gallon gas and giving him the election!
To: nowheretohide
Worse than that—and that is pretty disgusting, and true—he bows instinctively to the Islamic Prince who funds the violence training madrassas spewing out the jihadis traveling around the world murdering peoples of everykindred, tongue, race, and religion, includinf fellow muslims! O ba ma instinctively bowed to his superior.
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posted on
04/09/2009 10:11:26 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: jpf
Amen. We should bow only to God, because He is the King.
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posted on
04/09/2009 10:59:34 PM PDT
by
kevinw
(No king but Jesus!)
To: Steelfish
Well of course he shows fealty.
He’s a Muslim and had his Harvard education sponsored and paid for by the Saudi’s
Why is anyone surprised??
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posted on
04/09/2009 10:59:45 PM PDT
by
Wil H
(The most destructive act of Muslim terrorism against the US was paying for 0bama's Harvard education)
To: Steelfish
I can hear Gates now:
"Barack Obama DID NOT BOW to the Saudi king. He was actually trying to curtsy and tripped on the rug."
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posted on
04/09/2009 11:28:24 PM PDT
by
VeniVidiVici
(The Democrats want nationalized health care? I'll take the coverage Congress has. Nothing less.)
To: MHGinTN
This just in. Thanks to superior recording and voice recognition technology, we now know what Obama said to his King when he bowed.
"Death to America."
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posted on
04/10/2009 1:25:52 AM PDT
by
Enterprise
(I went to America and all I got were some DVDs and little helicopters.)
To: nowheretohide; All
There ya go ! (As in atta boy) When he bowed did anybody report any wink he gave to his chief campaign contributer.?
Should Obama’s refusal to use our own sources of energy be considered traitorous - as in a cause for impeachment? Through his policies and edict they have required this country to be dependent upon foreign sources for energy.
This was accomplished the same policys and edicts given through federal agencies under his juristiction that refused by bureaucratic encumberance or outright restriction allowing development of our own considerable natural energy resources in oil, natural gas, and nuclear energy resources.
Through the same use of policy and edict Obama misdirected federal funds to be diverted to campaign contributers to develop energy creating devices dependent on restricted intermittent output sources under the guise of ending dependence on foreign energy.
Is it time the administrations policies on energy get seriously questioned ?
http://www.theusmat.com/
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posted on
04/10/2009 4:12:12 AM PDT
by
mosesdapoet
(2010 One year to a new census and congressional redistricting, we need a strong hand in the House)
To: jpf
Us grown up countries don't have Kings and since only God is king we should reserve our bowing for him only.I read somewhere (wish I could remember where) that some British wit remarked on the oriental custom of bowing and why they didn't do likewise; he said we westerners bow only to God and our women.
To: Steelfish
Who told him to do that? Obama was raised a Muslim and will act according to the tradition of his raising. His core belief is showing along with his dareair, that wasn't considered attractive, for the whole world to see.
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posted on
04/11/2009 4:52:56 AM PDT
by
BellStar
(Buy Gold/lead and head for the hills please God give us another chance!)
To: Steelfish
Obamas been globe-trotting and claiming his youthful experience in a Muslim land has given him a greater understanding of Islam. Clearly, this is not true as it is STRICTLY forbidden to bow to anyone (or thing) but Allah in Islam. To top that off, he bowed to perhaps the least respected leader in the eyes of most Muslims/Arabs.
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