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Officials: Somali pirates seize 21 U.S. sailors
MSNBC ^ | 7 Apr 09 | NBC News

Posted on 04/08/2009 4:04:52 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776

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To: GATOR NAVY
The people of the merchant marine are called merchant mariners, and are civilian except in times of war, when, in accordance with the Merchant Marine Act of 1936 they are considered military personnel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Marine

Don't nitpick a nitpicker. ; )

121 posted on 04/08/2009 11:34:18 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: magslinger
Was this a set-up or what? The best way to catch the mouse is to trap it. Equip non-descript cargo vessels with a well armed reception committee and send them to the pirates. Let the pirates raid, attack, board and then spring the trap.. The Captain's summary justice for the offense of piracy can be the plank with a weighted chain.

Set the trap.. They will come!

122 posted on 04/08/2009 11:45:30 AM PDT by Broker (Pray in the spirit of ELIJAH!!!)
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To: massmike
Terrorist attacks always happen on American sovereignty when Democrats are in charge. I guess we will be told to get used to it and the masses will continue to ooohhh and ahhh at Dear leader.
123 posted on 04/08/2009 12:37:09 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama Legacy: The President that BANKRUPT and Destroyed America.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Pirates keep attacking merchant vessels because they don’t get shot doing it. If they try to board the ship, shoot them...


124 posted on 04/08/2009 12:45:46 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Shady

They will blame Bush.


125 posted on 04/08/2009 1:00:21 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Day March 31, 2009. Remember Terri Schiavo in your neck of the woods.)
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To: HawkeyeRepublican

Paging Janet: man made disaster stat.


126 posted on 04/08/2009 1:03:13 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Day March 31, 2009. Remember Terri Schiavo in your neck of the woods.)
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To: daku

cargo is relief aid for Kenya where Bambi’s cousin Odinga started riots and church burnings. Guess Bambi’s helping his cousin’s country first.


127 posted on 04/08/2009 1:07:41 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Day March 31, 2009. Remember Terri Schiavo in your neck of the woods.)
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To: ketelone

The ship was going to Kenya. Obama’s homeland.


128 posted on 04/08/2009 1:09:32 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Day March 31, 2009. Remember Terri Schiavo in your neck of the woods.)
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To: potlatch; holdonnow; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Travis McGee; Jeff Head

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Somali pirates captured a US flagged civilian crewed freighter with relief supplies bound for Kenya - first time in over 200 years since Thomas Jefferson

The crew took the ship back but the pirates have the US freighter’s Captain and 1st Mate as hostages in a small lifeboat off the huge US freighter

WRONG: “US is sending US warships but at 30 knots they are 13-14 hours away”

WRONG: “Other countries warships are closer - but still at least 3 hours away”

Obama had probably ordered US warships further away from Somalia.... before this

Muslim terrorists have captured a civilian US-flagged/crewed freighter

North Korea captured a US spyship - the USS Pueblo - in International waters under President Ford - still have it in NK - and their US Navy crew - held them a long time

When GW was inaugurated the Chi-Coms forced a US turboprop mapping-spyplane flying over International waters - to land on a Chi=Com island - held the crew hostage and kept the plane and tore it apart for intelligence info and spy-tek hardware secrets

Obama should have instantly ordered US Navy or US Air Force fighters and bombers to the area - less than 20-30 minutes away in a jet - and Apache choppers -

And maybe a B-2 Bomber with huge bombloads and a super long flightrange - or a Jolly Green..... To “circle”

Only the Captain now says Shep on FNC

No other Coalition ships in that area - early report was wrong

US warships only 200 miles away - still 7-8 hours away

If the pirates head to a Mother Ship and back into a Somali port - the US would have to bomb or invade Somali to get the US civvie freighter back

Obama is no Reagan

He will want to pay $10,000,000-plus BAILOUT for the US Captain

The Pentagon and US Navy and US Marines will not want to go along with Obama on that

Reagan: “No blackmail to be paid”

Obama is stuck now any way he goes:

#1 - Obama ordered a US freighter to KENYA!!!!!! (with a “whitey” US Captain & crew!) full of cooking oil, rice, etc. to head for (Muslim) Kenya (!) with suppies for Islamic Somalia, Islamic Kenya, other savage/stoneage African 3rd world countries thAt still have slavery, cannibalism, drive-in rape festivals, midnight basketball.....

#2 - Obama had then moved US warships that had help clean up the Somalia/Indian Ocean area in January well away from Africa

#3 - Obama sent a US civilian freighter into a large radical Islamic terrorist / pirate controlled area

#4 - Obama did not respond correctly or quickly - in AF-Zero in the air flying back from Europe
#5 - Obama has not sent US aircraft to stop the lifeboat the pirates took - with the US Captain from leaving and getting away before US warships can get there

#6 - Obama will blame Bush or others if the Somali Muslim pirates kill the US freighter Captain

It’s another Hussein II Pansy Scheme!!!!!


129 posted on 04/08/2009 1:32:57 PM PDT by devolve
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To: headstamp 2

Here’s what Wikipedia says on the Barbary Wars fought by our founding fathers. I think it’s a pretty decent article on the topic.

You can see that they were not completely unified on exactly what to do about the piracy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring “concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury”, the ambassador replied:

[Words of Jefferson follow / angkor]

“It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy’s ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.”

Jefferson reported the conversation to Secretary of State John Jay, who submitted the Ambassador’s comments and offer to Congress. Jefferson argued that paying tribute would encourage more attacks. Although John Adams agreed with Jefferson, he believed that circumstances forced the U.S. to pay tribute until an adequate navy could be built. The U.S. had just fought an exhausting war, which put the nation deep in debt. Federalist and anti-federalist forces argued over the needs of the country and the burden of taxation. Jefferson’s own Democratic-Republicans and anti-navalists believed that the future of the country lay in westward expansion, with Atlantic trade threatening to siphon money and energy away from the new nation on useless wars in the Old World.[4] The U.S. paid Algiers the ransom, and continued to pay up to $1 million per year over the next 15 years for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. Payments in ransom and tribute to the privateering states amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.

Jefferson continued to argue for cessation of the tribute, with rising support from George Washington and others. With the recommissioning of the American navy in 1794 and the resulting increased firepower on the seas, it became increasingly possible for America to refuse paying tribute, although by now the long-standing habit was hard to overturn.


130 posted on 04/08/2009 1:33:04 PM PDT by angkor
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; Lady Jag; MeekOneGOP; All
Very good information devolve, your memory for places and events amazes me. I recall the USS Pueblo incident well. They need a 'self destruct' button on those spy planes.

Obama is barely treading water now, he has sunk so low..


131 posted on 04/08/2009 2:07:04 PM PDT by potlatch (a burden shared gets lighter)
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To: fernwood
How about US Marines. Check your history. The USMC began their illustrious history against Islamic pirates....Lybian pirates.

Tell FUOB to strap a pair and put a stop to the pirates now and restore America's historic image as the good-guys with the strength. No US flagship should be boarded by pirates, especially Islamic pirates.

132 posted on 04/08/2009 2:21:19 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Take back America. Tell Congress to oppose spending and resist higher taxes.)
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To: April Lexington; aculeus; angkor; annieokie; BagCamAddict; Ben Reyes; Born In America; Broker; ...

just a one-timer to those who’ve posted here:

American crew regains control of pirated ship
CBS NEWS | 04/08/09 | Me
Posted on 04/08/2009 8:26:16 AM PDT by Robe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2224875/posts


133 posted on 04/08/2009 3:53:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: CMailBag
He has probably already sent them a “ALL-CAPS” email.

Obama's doomday weapon.

134 posted on 04/08/2009 4:27:34 PM PDT by topfile
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To: devolve

“North Korea captured a US spyship - the USS Pueblo - in International waters under President Ford ...”

Johnson


135 posted on 04/08/2009 5:10:56 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve; potlatch

.

You are correct

My history has a +/- 10 years fudge factor on many exact dates of many thousands of incidents or actions

The content being the most important


136 posted on 04/08/2009 5:21:56 PM PDT by devolve ( - - - - - - - - - - - - - It*s just another Pansy Scam! - - -)
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To: aculeus

does anyone realize the qualification to be accepted to the Merchant Marine Acadamy. Easier to get into West Point. God Bless the Merchant Marine!


137 posted on 04/08/2009 5:28:43 PM PDT by cork
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To: annieokie
Let the country starve.

I think Somalia is already doing that.

138 posted on 04/08/2009 7:04:25 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: cork
Easier to get into West Point. God Bless the Merchant Marine!

Agreed. I used to live in NYC near the East (it's really a strait but everyone calls it a) River and recall more than once seeing the MM Academy's ship come by full of students yelling, waving, etc. on what I guess was their annual training cruise.

139 posted on 04/08/2009 7:25:01 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; annieokie

Letting them starve—they are starving themselves but in the meantime we are letting them into this country by the thousands.

The ones I know all believe in sharia and the males all have several wives both here and over there in the kenyan refugee camps. The all love OBL and the fury in their mosques on friday is unbelievable. The kids will all come here one day.


140 posted on 04/09/2009 1:18:36 PM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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