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US Navy Physicist warns of crushing cold temperatures and global famine
Iceagenow.com ^ | 4/2/09 | James A. Marusek

Posted on 04/06/2009 1:10:42 PM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo

US Navy Physicist warns of possibly 'several decades of crushing cold temperatures and global famine'

By Retired U.S. Navy Physicist and Engineer James A. Marusek

2 Apr 09 – Excerpts: “The sun has gone very quiet as it transitions to Solar Cycle 24.

“Since the current transition now exceeds 568 spotless days, it is becoming clear that sun has undergone a state change. It is now evident that the Grand Maxima state that has persisted during most of the 20th century has come to an abrupt end.

“(The sun) might (1) revert to the old solar cycles or (2) the sun might go even quieter into a “Dalton Minimum” or a Grand Minima such as the “Maunder Minimum”. It is still a little early to predict which way it will swing. Each of these two possibilities holds a great threat to our nation.

“We are now at a crossroad. Two paths lie before us. Both are marked with a signpost that reads “Danger”! Down one path lies monstrous solar storms. Down the other path lies several decades of crushing cold temperatures and global famine.”

(Excerpt) Read more at iceagenow.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; catastrophism; climate; daltonminimum; globalcooling; globalwarming; grandminima; iceage; jamesmarusek; marusek; maunderminimum; milankovitch; milankovitchcycles; navy; sol; solaractivity; solarcycle24; sunspots
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Down one path lies monstrous solar storms. Down the other path lies several decades of crushing cold temperatures and global famine.”

doomed. Also, Obama's fault.

21 posted on 04/06/2009 1:36:19 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

This is a great article with some Physics bank shots I hadn’t considered.


22 posted on 04/06/2009 1:36:50 PM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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To: PA Engineer

Spaceweather got stupid-cute and scrapped the 30 some odd day continual spotless count because a microspot was evaluated to have formed for a half-second by some agency in Belgium.


23 posted on 04/06/2009 1:38:11 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Frantzie

“...Solar radiation is what matters....”

Are you kidding me? That huge ball of hell has NOTHING to do with weather or heating or cooling.

It is the 0.0% CO2 content!!! /s

The level of science based ignorance in the nation is appalling. We live in interesting times.


24 posted on 04/06/2009 1:38:23 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Perhaps fur will come back into style. Even naked PETA models will be wearing it.


25 posted on 04/06/2009 1:42:03 PM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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To: 21twelve
“... it looks like we are overdue for another major glaciation too.”

We are about 8,000 years overdue.

One theory holds that “greenhouse gases” created first by agriculture, then by industrialization have kept the overdue ice age in abeyance. In a sense, it's a variation of the “global warming” theme — except that global warming is what's keeping us from doom and gloom.

26 posted on 04/06/2009 1:42:21 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: skr

Obama can fix it, yes he can!


27 posted on 04/06/2009 1:44:34 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

PING


28 posted on 04/06/2009 1:46:12 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
One theory holds that “greenhouse gases” created first by agriculture, then by industrialization have kept the overdue ice age in abeyance. In a sense, it's a variation of the “global warming” theme — except that global warming is what's keeping us from doom and gloom.

So, in effect, global warming has made possible the growth of civilization.

How ironic is that?!!
29 posted on 04/06/2009 1:47:33 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“We are about 8,000 years overdue.”

The last ice age ended about 12,500 years ago. The ice ages come in two frequencies, every 100 ky and every 40 ky (Milankovitch orbital climate forcing is one cause of the start/end of ice ages), so I’d say we had a way to go before the next “official” one.

Ice ages started about 3 my ago when the poles iced up, which for a reason I don’t understand started an oscillation in climate that seems to be linked to the small variations in Earth’s orbit.

Naturally, a series of big volcanoes and the sun suddenly putting out 6% less UV can be a cause, too.


30 posted on 04/06/2009 1:47:37 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Unfortunately, all this really shows is how little we
all really know!

Let’s see, the earth will contract if
the environment is a bit colder, adding to tectonic
shifts, with more earthquakes, volcanism, and more
particles in the atmosphere, which will warm the earths
surface...and then with the excess meteor dust the earth
picks up, and the sun picks up, the earths mass will increase,
the suns’ mass will get smaller(the meteor pickup is
negated by the sun losing mass as it nuclear burns up),and
the net effect will be that the earth will be a bit closer
to the sun as before(due to higher gravitational attraction)
Then the temp will really go up, causing more water in the
atmosphere, which will shield us from the suns heat, and
we’ll be the same temp as we were before, only the ones who
have evolved an air conditioning and heating unit will do
better...(oh, we got those things already?...you mean sweat,
and shivering?)

Just kidding.
Pass me the marshmallows, or the popsicle....


31 posted on 04/06/2009 1:50:29 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
This simply cannot be! The global warming argument is over; the science is settled. Global warming is a fact that we must deal with!

I know because Dr. Heidi Cullen said so!

32 posted on 04/06/2009 1:52:43 PM PDT by Don Carlos (At least Mussolini made the trains run on time. What had Dear Reader done?)
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To: Frantzie
Get your ammo now

Way ahead of you, Shipmate.

33 posted on 04/06/2009 1:53:02 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I think the 8,000 years is about the length of the current warm period total. (Yeah - what a coincidence that you start seeing actual civilization start shortly after the temperatures get warmer!) But, the four(?) previous warm periods ended after about 6 to 8 thousand years IIRC.

And I think the impact that a few hundred thousand humans had on “global warming” would be negligable. Growing rice instead of wild rice would probably not be that big of a deal.

Even today, the amount of CO2 we put into the air is about 0.17% of the effective greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.


34 posted on 04/06/2009 1:53:36 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: Centurion2000
So are you proposing that this is actually going to be worse as in closer to a Maunder Minimum?

I do not know. I believe we are not getting a complete picture at the moment. With "government science" shilling for global warming, the resources are not being adequately allocated to address the real observable issues that may pose a threat to us.
35 posted on 04/06/2009 1:55:08 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Deo volente
Very.

Warm-mongers cluck that global warming will doom us all.

Rational skeptics (e.g. myself, and most other Freepers)question the premise of AGW.

The possibility that there is a greenhouse gas effect — and that it's a very good thing — is seldom discussed.

It may be difficult for people living in hot southern climes to believe — but, a warmer planet would be a lot better than a colder planet, for most of us.

36 posted on 04/06/2009 1:57:12 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Crazieman
I have been watching that. They definitely shill for the AGW crowd and generally are behaving in complete denial. Occasionally I have noticed some comments there that indicate a sense of panic.

This is just another example of the corruption of "government science".
37 posted on 04/06/2009 2:00:09 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Frantzie
“Get your ammo now.

That's right ! Cuz if Our Dear Leader gets his way, the only ammo available will be “Oblammo.” 45 Caliber, black, jelly beans. The blue, Armour Star wiener piercing jelly beans will no longer be allowed for sale to the public. Only the One World UN Army will be supplied with the blue jelly beans, and only in the popular .07 mm.

38 posted on 04/06/2009 2:01:38 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: indylindy
I've got a big-block Suburban and a V-8 Audi S4. I'm expecting my seventh CO2 emitter in June. We burn six cords of wood from October to April, and the Christmas lights are still on.

What more can I do?

39 posted on 04/06/2009 2:04:45 PM PDT by Jim Noble (They are willing to kill for socialism...but not to die for it.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Great, living in Houston I’m going to save big on AC costs!


40 posted on 04/06/2009 2:12:56 PM PDT by Lockbox
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