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Iowa court says gay marriage ban unconstitutional
Associated Press ^ | April 3, 2009

Posted on 04/03/2009 7:10:08 AM PDT by Zakeet

The Iowa Supreme Court says the state's same-sex marriage ban violates the constitutional rights of gay and lesbian couples, making it the third state where gay marriage is legal.

In a unanimous ruling issued Friday, the court upheld a 2007 Polk County District Court judge's ruling that the law was unconstitutional.

The case stems from a 2005 lawsuit filed by Lambda Legal, a New York-based gay rights organization. The group filed a lawsuit on behalf of six gay and lesbian Iowa couples who were denied marriage licenses.

The suit named then-Polk County recorder and registrar Timothy Brien.

The Polk County attorney's office claimed that Hanson's ruling violated the separation of powers and the issue should be left to the Legislature.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: gay; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homobama; homosexualagenda; iowa; ruling
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

The American people are so liberal now that liberalism is all they know and appreciate.


81 posted on 04/03/2009 1:39:43 PM PDT by Theodore R. (GWB is gone: Now the American sheeple can sleep at night!)
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To: Zakeet

Welcome to the land of judicial tyranny. Soon to be the land of legislative and executive tyranny as well.


82 posted on 04/03/2009 1:51:12 PM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: cspackler
There was one. The black robe mafia just ruled it unconstitutional and threw it out.

No, judges can't rule that a constitutional amendment is unconstitutional.
83 posted on 04/03/2009 1:52:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: 2harddrive
HELLO Constitutional Amendment!

This issue will only ever be resolved with a federal constitutional amendment enshrining one man, one woman as the definition of marriage in the USA.
84 posted on 04/03/2009 1:54:44 PM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: seatrout
The Iowa governor and legislature should tell the Iowa Supreme Court, in effect, “go to hell, we’re not doing a damn thing to make same-sex marriage legal”.

EXACTLY.

85 posted on 04/03/2009 2:15:24 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: Earthdweller

Gay civil unions... endorsed and enforced by the government... guarantee gay marriage.


86 posted on 04/03/2009 2:17:27 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: Zakeet

>>The Polk County attorney’s office claimed that Judge Robert Hanson’s ruling violated the separation of powers and said the issue should be left to the Legislature.<<

Well that’s not gonna work because of the Loving v. Virginia federal precedent.

>>Gay marriage opponents have no other legal options to appeal the case to the state or federal level because they were not parties to the lawsuit, and there is no federal issue raised in the case, Sarcone said. <<

And that’s makes for a heck of a conundrum -

>>Todd Pettys, a University of Iowa law professor, said the state’s equal protection clause on which Friday’s ruling was based is worded slightly differently than the U.S. Constitution. But Iowa’s language means almost “exactly the same thing.”

Still, he said, it’s difficult to predict whether the U.S. Supreme Court would view the issue the same way as the Iowa justices. <<

Before today I would have said that’s what it will come to - will the U.S. supreme court apply a similar interpretation like they did in Loving.

But this is state case only and fill faith and credit is not gonna leave much choice - other states are are almost going to have to honor these gay marriages the same way they honor contracts from other states.


87 posted on 04/03/2009 2:43:21 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Kozak
"We live in a Judicial Tyranny."

The folks in IA and CA do anyway.

88 posted on 04/03/2009 2:59:39 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: cspackler
Re: "could the people of that state do a constitutional amendment like we did here in FL and would that reverse this judges ruling which is pathetic

" There was one. The black robe mafia just ruled it unconstitutional and threw it out. "

The constitution, or any element of it, can not be declared unconstitutional.

89 posted on 04/03/2009 3:02:49 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: rwfromkansas
At least in this case, it was based upon the state constitution.

The decision usurped the elected legislature. As in MA and VT, it was based on the feelings of the judges. No legislature or people when given the chance have supported faggot marriage.

90 posted on 04/03/2009 3:06:18 PM PDT by Jacquerie (American public education is a form of child abuse - Mark Steyn)
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To: Zakeet
The good people of Iowa should tell the court to go pound sand, and then get their own initiative started. They should disobey the court order when its ramifications butt up against individual rights - which it will soon militantly do. Then, the state/federal executives will have to send it troops to enforce the “law.”

This is how revolutions get started.

91 posted on 04/03/2009 3:35:03 PM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: Zakeet

Alright Iowans time to assert your power and get to work on amending the state constitution.


92 posted on 04/03/2009 4:19:15 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: Alter Kaker

The original District court ruling and the first homosexual marriages predated Connecticut.


93 posted on 04/03/2009 5:00:31 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: Pietro

No kidding. “It should be left up to the states!” And, when the will of the people of the states can so easily be set aside by robed tyrants? It’s a nice sentiment and the way things ought to be, but it’s not where we live and won’t be until we figure out how to get the courts under control.


94 posted on 04/03/2009 5:04:42 PM PDT by Rastus (Jedi mind tricks would work on Obama.)
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To: longtermmemmory

What the hell.

Let’em get married.

Why should they be any happier than the rest of us.


95 posted on 04/03/2009 5:41:04 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: fwdude

Heh heh. You said butt. Heh heh.


96 posted on 04/03/2009 5:42:20 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: codex

Its a violation of civil rights.

The first amendment guarantees the free exercise of religion. In this case, the Court redefined the religious sacrament of marriage.

Notice that the Left which regularly supports the Separation of Church and State is delighted that the State breached the Wall and usurped the Church’s role in defining marriage.

The Wall Separating Church and State is merely an offensive launching point for the Left to attack Christianity.

The Church never wins these supposed disputes between the church and state.

Where is the Free exercise of religion at the end of the day? More limited than ever.


99 posted on 04/03/2009 8:51:55 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: DesertRenegade
Just like in California, it will be easy to get a huge majority of voters to agree to change the State Constitution to ban homosexual ‘marriage’. This won’t even last a month

Nope, getting a constitutional amendment on the ballot in CA is far easier than getting one passed in Iowa. It will be quite a few years before one can possibly be adopted, and there are reasons to believe that it just won't happen.

We have thirty states with anti-gay marriage provisions in their constitutions. As for the remaining twenty, they just haven't gotten around to legalizing gay marriage yet, but their supreme courts are taking them down that path. We might even see it happen by a legislature and an executive that is not willing to veto. That almost happened in Vermont, and if they get a Dem in as governor, it most assuredly will happen.

100 posted on 04/03/2009 8:55:55 PM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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