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Only Conserva-tarians Can Save the GOP
Canada Free Press ^ | 2009-03-19

Posted on 03/23/2009 10:30:09 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Limited government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, greater economic opportunity, and respect for this nation and its heritage.

BY JERRY A. KANE

At what point does complacency end and panic set in for the members and leaders of the Republican Party? When will they notice the empty hour glass and recognize wickedness for what it is? The hordes of satiated simpletons shouting in rhythmic cadence, “Oh we love, the O-One … Oh we love, the O-One” is not the Winkie chant of guards entering a castle in a scene from a classic fantasy film. The ill winds of the 2006 and 2008 elections that uprooted the GOP House and Senate leadership and sent Republicans spiraling downward were not flash-in-the-pan Kansas dust devils but full-blown Category-5 whirlwinds.

The party of Ronald Reagan has been victimized by disorganized thinking, held spellbound, and led astray by the siren call for moderation from its left wing, which by nature votes for progressive governance. Before Republicans begin their assault on the castle to douse the progressive Democrats’ power grab, the party’s conservatives and libertarians, i.e., Conserva-tarians, must come out from under the spell and cast out the treacherous progressive element from the positions of power in their own ranks.

Caught up in the tidal wave of the ’94 election, Republican exuberance soon gave way to a heightened sense of self-importance; instead of governing on principles and fulfilling their Contract with America, Republicans lost their way and spent the next 12 years trying to convince the electorate that their compromises were smart, courageous, and compassionate. Now, it’s up to Conserva-tarians to rise to the occasion, accept the challenge facing them, and move the party in the direction of limited government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, greater economic opportunity, and respect for this nation and its heritage.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; libertarian; lp; mccain; mccaintruthfile; moderates; olympiasnowe; rino; rinopurge; rinos; specter; susancollins
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To: Eagle Eye
The big question really is whether or not Conservatives abide by ‘live and let live’ for other adults or whether Conservatives want to enforce their values and standards on others.

Great point. I stand by the former and can't stand the latter.

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.

Oh, dear...


41 posted on 03/23/2009 12:49:12 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: WellyP

You mean like “economic conservative”/social liberal Arnold Schwarzenegger in California? We see now how well that turned out.

I know it’s fashionable to say one is economically conservative but socially and morally liberal. However, ultimately the social and moral liberalism always leads to economic liberalism/statism/socialism.

Good discussion on this topic here-

“Why Moral Conservatism Is Indispensable to Liberty.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2208536/posts


42 posted on 03/23/2009 12:50:07 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Don W

Interstate Commerce Clause and 14th Amendment among other places.


43 posted on 03/23/2009 12:56:31 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MEGoody
But I’ve avoided the Libertarian party because they tend to be socially liberal.

Many small-l libertarian are socially conservative but check their activism at the door in oredr to reduce the size and scope of the state from meddling in the business of others. I've got no problems with dope smokers and same sex couple but I know a whole lot of So-Cons that abhor the behaviors so much, they're willing to want to legislate. How these people are pro-liberty is beyond me.

44 posted on 03/23/2009 1:00:38 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: vets son

Actually, you were responding to wagglebee’s points, but I agree with you.


45 posted on 03/23/2009 1:11:58 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: LowCountryJoe
Many small-l libertarian are socially conservative but check their activism at the door in oredr to reduce the size and scope of the state from meddling in the business of others. I've got no problems with dope smokers and same sex couple but I know a whole lot of So-Cons that abhor the behaviors so much, they're willing to want to legislate. How these people are pro-liberty is beyond me.

Standing ovation!!!!!!!

You just said it all!

46 posted on 03/23/2009 1:16:58 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Loyalty to the GOP didn't beget Obama. The abandonment of President Bush by Big C Conservatives because of (insert issue here) did.

The base listened to the din of Katrina, wiretaps, torture, Plame, inside job!, and were cowed. The most vocal put on fronts of righteous indignation and a lot of people stayed home.

As a result we have the O-man, who has spent more in the past 60 days than all 8 years of Bush's extra spending. The protections of the unborn are being undone as we speak. Gun rights are in jeopardy. The military is on the verge of being gutted. Not to mention the fact that the economy is being taxed and regulated to death, The dollar is becoming a joke. Diplomatically, we're making fools of ourselves. And our children are headed for a life of forced service.

Great plan - throwing the election to an avowed commie in the hopes of reforming and winning the future great battle. I hope it works.

47 posted on 03/23/2009 1:17:10 PM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Bait and Switch - that's change ain't it?)
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To: LowCountryJoe

I’ve attempted to argue this point with folks on this board for a long time.

I’ve finally come to the conclusion, advanced succintly on the blog “Classical Values”, that many conservatives have about as much respect for the Constitution as the vast majority of liberals, i.e., none. In the service of some noble goal, both conservatives and liberals will run rough-shod over the Constitution (witness the Schiavo case; likewise, witness the War on Drugs, which still enjoys considerable support among social conservatives).

Generally, liberals tend to favor a form of “economic socialism”: the use of the State to enforce economic justice through regulation, taxation, and/or confiscation. Conservatives tend to favor a form of “moral socialism”: the use of the State to enforce moral codes, such as the banning of abortion, the banning of gay marriage, extensive regulations on pornography, etc.

For government to “leave us alone” will require the People of this country to learn, once and for all, that government is the answer to nothing: “that government is best which governs least.”


48 posted on 03/23/2009 1:24:43 PM PDT by ForeignDude
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To: Jack of all Trades

Precisely! I don’t want to hear any of these turncoats’ whining when the man they helped elect turns his brown shirts loose against them.


49 posted on 03/23/2009 1:37:01 PM PDT by gtsamson (Purists are the bane of the conservative movement and the Republican Party.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The main fault of the conservative movement is that it is just as likely to seek government solutions to the problems it perceives in society as the left is. Consequently, there is currently no major party that believes in limited and restrained government across the board. Too bad.


50 posted on 03/23/2009 1:41:39 PM PDT by BearArms (Arm yourself because no one else here will save you)
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To: LowCountryJoe
How these people are pro-liberty is beyond me.

By your definition, they wouldn't be. But society as a whole has to balance liberty with what is good for the society. If we didn't, there would be no laws against anything, and we'd have anarchy.

So. . .the difference really seems to be what liberties one is willing to give up for the good of society.

51 posted on 03/23/2009 1:42:20 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Eagle Eye
The big question really is whether or not Conservatives abide by ‘live and let live’ for other adults or whether Conservatives want to enforce their values and standards on others.

Actually, we all have limits on 'live and let live.' The only difference is to what level one is willing to restrict how others 'live' for the good of society. If there were absolutely no limits on the 'live and let live' philosophy, we'd have anarchy.

52 posted on 03/23/2009 1:43:44 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: WayneS
Have you looked into the Constitution Party?

I have, and will continue to do so at each election.

53 posted on 03/23/2009 1:44:33 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

Excellent post!


54 posted on 03/23/2009 1:45:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: djsherin
They tend to be against the federal government getting involved in things that aren’t in the Constitution. This would leave social issues mostly to the states.

"They" being Libertarians? That is fine, but unfortunately the Libertarians at the state level haven't been socially conservative either.

55 posted on 03/23/2009 1:45:34 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: djsherin; MEGoody
They tend to be against the federal government getting involved in things that aren’t in the Constitution.

Some including Glenn Beck hold social conservative values, but most don't, they would legalize drugs, abortion, and I doubt they would get all that upset with pedophilia, as long as it was with consent.

The problem is their values tend to lead to devolution of society, reference Robert Bork's book, "Slouching to Gomorra."

The fact is Man does not become socially good on his own, as the Apostle Paul noted, Man will sink to the lowest level, left to his desires.

56 posted on 03/23/2009 2:11:13 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: WellyP
The rest of the Conservative agenda can not be sold to a voting majority, as witnessed in the last election.

Silly me, I don't recall this even coming up for discussion during the campaign. I do remember McCain saying we have nothing to fear from this man Obama. That and various other stupid comments by McCain, went a long way towards defeat.

If not for Palin on the ticket, McCain would have racked up the worst defeat since Carter.

57 posted on 03/23/2009 2:16:06 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: rockinqsranch
we are at war with internal enemies supported by international non State entities that have been fighting their war against our Nation whom doesn't appear to realize there is a war.

Bingo!


58 posted on 03/23/2009 2:20:41 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: Bokababe
If you are truly against those issues, your best bet at eliminating them IS at the State level, not at the national level.

B$.

59 posted on 03/23/2009 2:26:13 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: vets son
Bottom line there is very little difference in the 2 parties.

"Not a dimes worth of difference" That could be a campaign issue, oh never mind.....

60 posted on 03/23/2009 2:27:48 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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