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House passes bill taxing AIG and other bonuses (HR 1586: Tax 90% over $250,000)
Breitbart - Associated Press ^ | March 18, 2009 | STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

Posted on 03/19/2009 12:10:57 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

Acting with lightning speed, the Democratic-led House has approved a bill to slap punishing taxes on big employee bonuses from firms bailed out by taxpayers.

The vote was 328-93.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; aig; congress; democratcongress; democrats; dodd; economy
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Oh I absolutely agree. Congress has no business in any of this. We had/have laws on the books to deal with failing companies. Congressional action should have been a minimum if any at all.

Personally when I hear the words ‘too big to fail’ I think monopoly. If there is a monopoly...then there is a legal consequence.

If there was to be any bailouts etc. it should have come from the bankruptcy court system. The courts should have never ever been circumvented. Even now, much of this could be stabilized by turning matters over to the bankruptcy courts for reorganization. Congress trying to do this with the tactics their using is fascism in my opinion.

Rally up anger towards these people, they are not trying to save their company, their just running away with our tax money...c’mon. It is all propaganda. The more I watched this today the more I believe AIG is a prop, an excuse, and is being abused as a means to a more sinister end. Poor useful idiots.

181 posted on 03/19/2009 2:02:47 PM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: EBH
"Are you that slow?"

You're the one confusing a bad law with contracts.

182 posted on 03/19/2009 2:03:03 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: boxerblues; Corin Stormhands; Gabz; Nick The Freeper

Eric Cantor voted for this disgusting piece of legislation. He’s no better than the rest of them.

We will all pay for this down the road.


183 posted on 03/19/2009 2:04:27 PM PDT by iceskater (Increased taxation and government spending is NOT the way to prosperity.)
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To: spunkets
regular salaried employees with Bonus clauses in their contracts wise guy

I can guarantee you that many operations staff and finance personnel were offered retention bonuses at AIG. As the previous posters have stated, believing that all this money was paid to 50 people at AIG-FP is naive.

184 posted on 03/19/2009 2:04:59 PM PDT by JrsyJack (ct)
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To: EBH
It is not a knee jerk response.

You misunderstood my post. I fully support your position. I was referring to the knee jerks in Congress and on the thread who want to punish AIG for something that the government already controlled and condoned.

I agree that Congress has no business passing any such nonsense.

185 posted on 03/19/2009 2:05:25 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (Obamania - just say nope to this dope's hope and tell him to keep the change.)
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To: iceskater

Republicans better start fighting this administration on something or we’re going to be in a heck of a lot of trouble.

Folks, we have Karl Marx, Jr. as our President. If you can’t be against him on just about every issue, you don’t deserve to be elected.


186 posted on 03/19/2009 2:06:07 PM PDT by chpmass
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To: JrsyJack
"What happens to the $200 billion it owes.

$200 billion? Try $1.6 trillion (or more) in outstanding liabilities. If AIG goes belly-up, there's going to be more than a foot wound - the sound we'll all hear is that of a sucking chest wound.

You're point is very well made.

187 posted on 03/19/2009 2:06:48 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: OrangeDaisy
These retention bonusescontract payments were contractually promised to people asked to stay on and unwind [positions in] the Financial Products unit. They are trying to manage trillions of dollars and right the sinking ship. The ones who took the ridiculous risks are gone. Management of these products is a very specialized and there are not many around who have the skills to do so. If the folks who received the bonuses walk away (and who can blame them if they do after the venom congress spewed yesterday), AIG may yet fail.

Which one would almost think Congress is hell bent on forcing to happen! You said it well, these facts need be told often. The real news was that the $80 Billion in Credit Default Swaps have been closed out and the division that caused the problem is all but shut down! By simply NOT reporting the real news, the media is complicit in this witch hunt (which they are covering!).

188 posted on 03/19/2009 2:09:20 PM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: iceskater

Lovely, just lovely.


189 posted on 03/19/2009 2:10:12 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: spunkets

I am a retail sales manager.

I get a salary

and a quarterly bonus...

When we filed chapter 11 years ago...

I got a bonus to stay on board and work it out.


190 posted on 03/19/2009 2:10:34 PM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: ConservativeMind

You can bet they will be hiring some real clever tax lawyers when they do their taxes next year.


191 posted on 03/19/2009 2:11:19 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: tsmith130
"The bonus money did NOT pay for failure.

LOL! Of course not.

"The bonus money paid people to PREVENT further failure."

Paying bonuses to the folks that caused the failure in the first place is an act of stupidity.

...and those people were NOT the people that got AIG into trouble in the first place!"

Whatever you say...

192 posted on 03/19/2009 2:11:26 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: ConservativeMind

I am very against the bailout, but this is absolutely chilling!


193 posted on 03/19/2009 2:13:00 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: EBH
"I am a retail sales manager. I get a salary and a quarterly bonus... When we filed chapter 11 years ago... I got a bonus to stay on board and work it out."

Wonderful!

194 posted on 03/19/2009 2:13:01 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Dead Corpse

Liberals don’t pay taxes, just the little people.


195 posted on 03/19/2009 2:13:14 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: EBH
"When we filed chapter 11 years ago... I got a bonus to stay on board and work it out.

The same exact thing happened to my sister-in-law. As I understand it, it is very common in commercial bankruptcy filings, especially in liquidations.

196 posted on 03/19/2009 2:13:48 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: spunkets

Do you understand that is what these bonuses were?


197 posted on 03/19/2009 2:13:58 PM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: EBH
"Do you understand that is what these bonuses were?

He doesn't understand and he doesn't care. He just want to "get the man".

198 posted on 03/19/2009 2:15:31 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey

I should have been more specific. The $200 billion was in reference to the essentially unsecured TARP money. The policyholder liabilities are protected by the various state regulations and are deemed safe. It is that fact that keeps it out of bounds from Fed seizure in the event of bankruptcy. In short the policyholders are protected and the taxpayers are screwed. I guess that would make the policyholders the next public enemy #1.


199 posted on 03/19/2009 2:16:08 PM PDT by JrsyJack (ct)
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To: Big_Monkey

I have to really, really wonder if AIG is regretting the bailout.


200 posted on 03/19/2009 2:18:26 PM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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