Posted on 03/15/2009 4:37:40 PM PDT by Ravnagora
BELGRADE -- Opposition DSS leader Vojislav Koštunica has warned that Serbia is undergoing spiritual and territorial ravaging.
Koštunica speaks in Belgrade on Saturday (Beta)
"It is simply unbearable, the ease with which today everyone feels entitled to disparage the holy values that the Serb nation respects," said the former prime minister, addressing his party's youth forum in Belgrade on Saturday.
"The most venom is directed against those values and ideals. According to this cruel logic, not only must Serbia be reduced territorially, but the Serbs cannot be what they are."
Parliament is the right place for talks about Serbia's future since it has gathered all the ideas, he continued: a fight for a better Serbia and conviction that the state-making policies of the DSS are a guarantee for a safe and better future for the country.
Koštunica reminded that it is Serbia that has no alternative, and that it therefore must be confident and strong for others to respect her.
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We’ve been through all of this with you before, Bonly-boy. There’s no need to repeat it all again.
Have you debunked this already? Looks like people having fun with playful Serbian soldiers
And if you are so "right", then why do you have to continually lie with obviously PHOTOSHOPPED photos (look at the perfect shadowing of ribs & sharp edges along the bodies, did you forget the FR is the place that discovered the fake "Israel bombing Lebanon" photos?) and quoting a fictional character in novel by Cosic as his own words?
You are not presenting an honest point of view, you are dishing out crap pro-Muslim propaganda -- and you aren't even very good at it.
Was the choice, lobbying for Muslims & Croats verses opening a Lemonade Stand, "entrepreneur"? If so, you made the wrong choice -- and so did whoever hired you!
Clueless: The first Bosnians to be murdered, at the end of March 1992, were Serbs — shot by Muslims in Sarajevo. British kitsch TV ITN (Vulliamy, Penny Marshal, Ian Williams) & other scammers published pics of their skinny guy Fikret Abdic (TB patient) — surrounded by chubby guys shirtless and in in bib overalls. Mehmet gave his name. Bosnian Serb forces took those ITN hoaxters to a refugee camp, but the presstitutes called it a death camp and superimposed WWI photos of Geman goon towers on the pics. —Cloudless skies like this are not to be seen in Bosnian summer. Give us the names of your skinny guys, name of the photographer, date taken, place taken. These skinny guys are not Bosnians of any stripe. How long do people have to hunger to get this emaciated? You do not indicate the source of you pics. You’re a phoney.
Brainless-fool: Look at the light and shadow on the face and on the body. The face should be as bright as the chest. The face is in shadow, The chest is in the sun.
Montage a.k.a. photo shop
You seem very mature. For the rest, picture where the sun would be at 1-3 pm and there you got it. Check the shade direction with others. However, don't get too upset, you can always deny it.
Miss impartiality? I am not "pro-muslim," I just hate animals that put human beings in concentration camps and their stooges that deny it when we can even see pictures and videos. You don't need to have an IQ of 145 to see that. Here some video after the Serbs cleaned up the place: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/18/newsid_2499000/2499135.stm
Since you read Cosic's book tell me, what is it about? Who is the main character? Is he supposed to represent the ideal Croat, Muslims, Serb, German, Brazilian or what...?
If I were a lobbyist, I would have spent as much time as you on the topic/s. By the way, apparently you have said pretty stupid things online, unless there is another Bokababe. Once you lie a few times, people no longer believe you, that's what Cosic the Liar forgot.
Maher, I am going to Bosnia right now to get their names, dob, and everything for you. If you cant wait, start looking at the bottom of this page, many Serbs have been jailed for running these concentration camps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trnopolje_camp
You may also want to google and see how long it takes for a human to die from hunger (estimate their condition) and how long the Bosnia 'war' lasted.
You can't even get through a single sentence without a lie.
So tell me about the faked video? Or how servs occupied Kosovo in 1189, converted, killed and chased out the rest of the Albanians?
Please show me where I said that Serb wartime prison camps were the Holiday Inn. I didn't, so quit constructing straw men.
Bosnia was a bloody vicious ethnic civil war, with horrific atrocities on ALL sides (ghastly photo warning). But WHAT BOSNIA WASN'T was was "6 million Jewish civilians (and 700,000 Serbs) being marched off to deathcamps" for no reason, other than they existed. And that is the story you are trying to construct. Context is EVERYTHING, and the context you are attempting to put forth is third-rate BS to anyone with a brain. Your fake photos are no more of a well-constructed argument for US intervention, than the real photos of Abu Ghraib are an absolute argument against our intervention in Iraq. Even if they were real, they'd just be a small piece in a much bigger puzzle.
What I also did say was that your images were photo shopped, which it is obvious that they are, especially since they did such a pathetic job of it. And if you are telling the truth, then why the need for deception?
"Since you read Cosic's book tell me, what is it about? Who is the main character? Is he supposed to represent the ideal Croat, Muslims, Serb, German, Brazilian or what...?"
I didn't have to "read Cosic's book" to do my homework. Even a cheap check of Wiki would reveal the right answer that you are too lazy (and blind with hatred) to do:
Quote from the musings of a controversial lead character of the novel trilogy "Deobe"(Divisions) 1961. Volume I, page 135: "A lie, trait of our patriotism" “We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else’s misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively."
Check the year, moron. 1961 -- the height of communism in Yugoslavia and Cosic was a communist then, so it was to his advantage (and Tito's) to construct a view of Tito's enemies (the Serb Cetniks) that was as ugly & twisted as possible. (If he hadn't, we'd have never heard of the book because Cosic would have been in prison.) Meanwhile, those same Titoist communists were exalted at that time by own US State Department and any & all who got in their way -- including 500 US Airmen rescued by the Serbs -- were ignored, insulted and diminished and their stories were buried.
By the way, apparently you have said pretty stupid things online, unless there is another Bokababe.
Can't control exclusivity of screen names. But considering the source and judge of those comments (you), I'll take that comment for what it's worth.
What you underestimate "nameless" is how long this subject has been discussed and the level of detail it has been discussed at. You can't expect to show up three weeks ago, slap a bunch of lazy exaggerated propaganda crap on the wall, and expect to have any credibility with anyone here.
My interest in this is not what you think. It is an argument that the US had no business and still has no business intervening in the Balkans on ANY SIDE, period -- especially when we are getting lied to about the context and events on the ground. We had enormous opportunities for real diplomacy to have prevented these wars, but those in "the International Community", including our own State Department, didn't want a peaceful resolution, they wanted "an outcome" of divided ethnic states. And the only way to get that was to have these horrific wars that produced ethnic "good guys" and "bad guys", and then exaggerate the acts of the "bad guys" to justify anything we do to them.
We've entrusted our national security (and our Balkan policy) to a bunch of third-rate State Department hacks who want to run the world, but who in real life could successfully run a single 7-11. May God Save us all from these narcissistic careerist traitors to what America stands for!
That’s one of your strongest posts ever. Kudos.
The Hague court determined that GENOCIDE was committed against Bosniaks by Serbs and that is reason enough to intervene. We weren't lied apparently, serbian liars are now trying to muddy the waters. The first genocide since the nazis, at least in Europe, some African countries have doen worst, I admit.
To be a concentration camp one doesn't have to put Jews in, Bosniaks and Croats are the same. Whether the pictures are fake or not, I can't argue with a pigheaded serb, the court determined the truth and many serbs are in jail because of them.
700,000 serbs didn't die. Belgrade was the first city to become Judenrein thanks to Milan Nedic and his Serbian goons.
US airman were saving the world--including Serbia-- from Germany and saving them is the least anyone could do. Why do you brag?
How do you know he didn't believe it to be true and later had a conversion? Was Cosic that weak that he had to bash his heroes and harm serbdom for an extra slice of cheese ?(He didn't have to write that book.)
Of course, it isn't as you say. Dobrica Cosic, proved that point with SANU and the link you have on your tagline is the most recent proof of it. Isn't the Serbian Church the custodian of "Serbian Values"? Those values are fully displayed in that site.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=CtL&q=Serbian+National+Council+of+Kosovo+and+Metohija+Artemije&btnG=Search
Talk about spin! LOL!!!
Oh dang! I have been trying so hard to hide that, that...that.. I posted it to my FR page years ago! LOL!
Virtually all the articles linked on SerbBlog are from other well-known publications in English yet the shed a light on a larger picture of the conflict and its resolutions -- the who, where and why. I am not ashamed of owning up to that.
As opposed to nameless, faceless you, who comes here only to take a verbal crap & remain "anonymous", thinking it the smart thing to do to be believed. Good luck with that.
You were armed to the teeth, others unarmed and saw your chance, only to be taught a lesson....The first genocide since the nazis, at least in Europe, some African countries have doen worst, I admit.
WTF? Oh yeah, sure you ARE definitely "American". LOL! Your writing skills -- or lack thereof-- betray you, again and again...
"To be a concentration camp one doesn't have to put Jews in, Bosniaks and Croats are the same."
..and again.
Croatia has secretly been paying reparations to the former inmates of its concentration camps, too, but you never saw photos of conditions in those camps -- just the Serb ones regurgitated over and over, with photshopped ones like yours mixed in.
"700,000 serbs didn't die."
And Jasenovac didn't exist, and the Ustashi didn't exist and Croats didn't cooperate with Muslims during WWII to kill Serbs both then and now. And if anyone believes that garbage from you then I am sure you can sell them some swamp land in Florida too, "entrepreneur"!
And by the way, I can’t tell you how many times I have gotten 20 paragraph posts from Albanians and Croats that curse me out in Serbian. I just laugh because I don’t understand Serbian and they just wasted a half an hour of their time spewing something that it took me a split second to hit “delete” on!
And then are those that begin with, “Russian whore” and “Serbian Bitch”, including more than a few death threats. Do they really think that I am going to do anything other than forward their IP address to the police?
I am an American, with freedom of speech. And the day that I am too intimidated to post to my blog or here, in fear for my life, is the day it’s time to lock & load!
Good, we can all send them a check to help assuage their suffering. The simplest fakes superimpose a picture of a single person over a background.
Like the Hungarian comic who superimposed his mug from every catastrophe form 9/11 to the sinking of the Titanic.
If background and foreground are both in focus, as is the case with your fakes, the camera used must have an awesome depth of field. Tell us what make of camera(s) were used in your shots. The Hubble telescope?
Your skinny guys:
? date of internment, physical condition at the time?
There was a Muslim physician at Trnopolje.
? period of internment?
? Groups in the background: who are the guys in the background? Why don’t they have their shirts off?
? What and where are those buildings in the background?
? What was the local weather report on those days?
?”Who is/are the photographer?
?On what date(s) were your classic “photos” shot?
Gee whizz, golly... You are so mean. Don’t tease us. I’m ready to break down and cry...
It’s up to you to tell us long it takes for a healthy, well-fed man to get so skinny...
http://blogs.photopreneur.com/the-worlds-most-famous-photoshop-fakes
You have the right to say whatever you want, but don't pull the "I'm impartial crap," you're as "Montenegrin" as Karadzic. Judging by your posts, I am pretty sure that you go to a Serbian church, and that makes you 100% Serb.
Croatia apparently has accepted responsibility, when will you Serbs start paying ? Are the mass graves found near those "detention" camps fake as well?
I'll also ask them in what Serbian concentration camp they were put:
The location of the dozens of Bosnia Serb concentration camps coincided with the shape of the country they wanted to form. For this, they needed to clear the territories of all traces of Muslim or Croat enemies in "their" land.
We don’t need this crap; flame wars are bad enough without the basis being territorial between two parties who no longer even dwell on the soil over which they so loudly and contentiously clamor.
Please remove all cross-communication or the entire thread.
We fight political battles not ground wars here.
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