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To: Bokababe; maher
You are not presenting an honest point of view, you are dishing out crap pro-Muslim propaganda -- and you aren't even very good at it.

Miss impartiality? I am not "pro-muslim," I just hate animals that put human beings in concentration camps and their stooges that deny it when we can even see pictures and videos. You don't need to have an IQ of 145 to see that. Here some video after the Serbs cleaned up the place: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/18/newsid_2499000/2499135.stm

Since you read Cosic's book tell me, what is it about? Who is the main character? Is he supposed to represent the ideal Croat, Muslims, Serb, German, Brazilian or what...?

If I were a lobbyist, I would have spent as much time as you on the topic/s. By the way, apparently you have said pretty stupid things online, unless there is another Bokababe. Once you lie a few times, people no longer believe you, that's what Cosic the Liar forgot.

Maher, I am going to Bosnia right now to get their names, dob, and everything for you. If you cant wait, start looking at the bottom of this page, many Serbs have been jailed for running these concentration camps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trnopolje_camp

You may also want to google and see how long it takes for a human to die from hunger (estimate their condition) and how long the Bosnia 'war' lasted.

27 posted on 03/16/2009 5:50:16 PM PDT by nameless-fool (Dobrica Cosic: "Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence.")
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To: nameless-fool
I am not "pro-muslim,"...

You can't even get through a single sentence without a lie.

28 posted on 03/17/2009 6:22:09 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: nameless-fool
"I am not "pro-muslim," I just hate animals that put human beings in concentration camps and their stooges that deny it when we can even see pictures and videos."

Please show me where I said that Serb wartime prison camps were the Holiday Inn. I didn't, so quit constructing straw men.

Bosnia was a bloody vicious ethnic civil war, with horrific atrocities on ALL sides (ghastly photo warning). But WHAT BOSNIA WASN'T was was "6 million Jewish civilians (and 700,000 Serbs) being marched off to deathcamps" for no reason, other than they existed. And that is the story you are trying to construct. Context is EVERYTHING, and the context you are attempting to put forth is third-rate BS to anyone with a brain. Your fake photos are no more of a well-constructed argument for US intervention, than the real photos of Abu Ghraib are an absolute argument against our intervention in Iraq. Even if they were real, they'd just be a small piece in a much bigger puzzle.

What I also did say was that your images were photo shopped, which it is obvious that they are, especially since they did such a pathetic job of it. And if you are telling the truth, then why the need for deception?

"Since you read Cosic's book tell me, what is it about? Who is the main character? Is he supposed to represent the ideal Croat, Muslims, Serb, German, Brazilian or what...?"

I didn't have to "read Cosic's book" to do my homework. Even a cheap check of Wiki would reveal the right answer that you are too lazy (and blind with hatred) to do:

Quote from the musings of a controversial lead character of the novel trilogy "Deobe"(Divisions) 1961. Volume I, page 135: "A lie, trait of our patriotism" “We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else’s misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively."

Check the year, moron. 1961 -- the height of communism in Yugoslavia and Cosic was a communist then, so it was to his advantage (and Tito's) to construct a view of Tito's enemies (the Serb Cetniks) that was as ugly & twisted as possible. (If he hadn't, we'd have never heard of the book because Cosic would have been in prison.) Meanwhile, those same Titoist communists were exalted at that time by own US State Department and any & all who got in their way -- including 500 US Airmen rescued by the Serbs -- were ignored, insulted and diminished and their stories were buried.

By the way, apparently you have said pretty stupid things online, unless there is another Bokababe.

Can't control exclusivity of screen names. But considering the source and judge of those comments (you), I'll take that comment for what it's worth.

What you underestimate "nameless" is how long this subject has been discussed and the level of detail it has been discussed at. You can't expect to show up three weeks ago, slap a bunch of lazy exaggerated propaganda crap on the wall, and expect to have any credibility with anyone here.

My interest in this is not what you think. It is an argument that the US had no business and still has no business intervening in the Balkans on ANY SIDE, period -- especially when we are getting lied to about the context and events on the ground. We had enormous opportunities for real diplomacy to have prevented these wars, but those in "the International Community", including our own State Department, didn't want a peaceful resolution, they wanted "an outcome" of divided ethnic states. And the only way to get that was to have these horrific wars that produced ethnic "good guys" and "bad guys", and then exaggerate the acts of the "bad guys" to justify anything we do to them.

We've entrusted our national security (and our Balkan policy) to a bunch of third-rate State Department hacks who want to run the world, but who in real life could successfully run a single 7-11. May God Save us all from these narcissistic careerist traitors to what America stands for!

30 posted on 03/17/2009 10:42:22 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: nameless-fool

Good, we can all send them a check to help assuage their suffering. The simplest fakes superimpose a picture of a single person over a background.

Like the Hungarian comic who superimposed his mug from every catastrophe form 9/11 to the sinking of the Titanic.

If background and foreground are both in focus, as is the case with your fakes, the camera used must have an awesome depth of field. Tell us what make of camera(s) were used in your shots. The Hubble telescope?

Your skinny guys:
? date of internment, physical condition at the time?
There was a Muslim physician at Trnopolje.

? period of internment?
? Groups in the background: who are the guys in the background? Why don’t they have their shirts off?

? What and where are those buildings in the background?
? What was the local weather report on those days?
?”Who is/are the photographer?
?On what date(s) were your classic “photos” shot?

Gee whizz, golly... You are so mean. Don’t tease us. I’m ready to break down and cry...

It’s up to you to tell us long it takes for a healthy, well-fed man to get so skinny...

http://blogs.photopreneur.com/the-worlds-most-famous-photoshop-fakes


37 posted on 03/17/2009 4:10:00 PM PDT by maher ( Srebrenica, denial)
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