Posted on 03/13/2009 10:04:07 PM PDT by neverdem
Had to post for those who read this article.
I suppose if we knew how they worked, we could glue and unglue matter at te sub atomic level.
The results suggest that the Higgs boson is not a relatively high-mass particle, and physicists must keep looking for evidence of the Higgs boson in the lower-mass debris that sprays from particle collisions inside the Tevatron.If the Higgs gives all matter its mass, then wouldn't all debris with mass contain the Higgs?
It’s above my pay grade.
I sort of have to agree with your argument.
The Higgs “confers” mass and wouldn’t necessarily have mass.
A massless photon would make more sense, which interacts with high energy states.
It seems to me that many have considered a relationship to exist between gravity and electromagnetism over the years, which might be eventually proven at the boson-particle level.
Gravity is definitely a property of mass, and electromagnetism could be represented as a property of energy. It has some properties that resemble gravity. ( With the exception of a repulsive state in gravity, which can’t be demonstrated or proven at present )
It is possible that the Higgs can only be observed in close proximity to a large gravity source or a large energy source, like the LHC, a star or singularity.
Such extreme conditions may be necessary to provide the proper environment needed for the transformation of energy to mass.
At any rate, assuming mass is necessary for the Higgs is probably misdirected. More theoretical research is going to have to be done to determine what the properties are for the Higgs.
IIRC, electromagnetic repulsion and attraction are mediated by photons - but a photon itself has no charge.
Thanks neverdem.
Physicists get closer to finding the ‘God Particle’
AFP on Yahoo | 3/13/09 | AFP
Posted on 03/13/2009 8:04:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2206301/posts
Single top quark detected
Science News | March 10th, 2009 | Solmaz Barazesh
Posted on 03/13/2009 9:49:17 PM PDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2206336/posts
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If it exists. My money’s on the Tevatron. They are way ahead. An international coallition, think UN, is inherently less efficient.
The “luminosity” of the LHC is MUCH GREATER than that of the Tevatron. Anything of note in the energy range they decide to run the LHC is far more likely to be found by it than by the Tevatron since they will gather data much much faster.
If this doesn't do it for you, I'm afraid I won't be able to help much in a few posts.
Thanks for the link!
It’s broke. My money’s on the Tevatron, if this particle exists.
I’m not so sure they will find it. The Higgs that is.
To paraphrase Bill Clinton, "It depends on what the definition of 'find' is." The positron was "found" by its particle track in a bubble chamber - an electron bending the wrong way. The neutrino was "found" as a missing track, required to be there by conservation of momentum and energy - corroborated of course in a multitude of interactions.
Then we moved on to the Psi particle with a lifetime of 7e-21 seconds, so don't be lookin' for no tracks. This discovery consisted in a "hump" in the cross section of an interaction as a function of energy - a "resonant energy". OK.
Now where are we? Now we require statistical analysis! A certain collection of data gleaned from millions, or billions ( I don't know ) of interactions must depend, with 99.X% certainty on the existence of this particle, so what was that middle part again?
Like Andy Warhol said, "Death is so abstract."
What makes you think that I think that? I think it's so funny that you think that I think that.
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