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To: Tazlo; NormsRevenge
> I’ve always thought of God as energy, not matter, unless He’s both.

Aren't they the same?

[ducks]

Q. What's the difference between a duck?

A. Because one feet is both the same.

69 posted on 03/14/2009 9:34:00 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored; Williams; Tazlo; All

I like the turn this thread took before I got a chance to register my observations. Most scientists in premier physics labs I have known are strong believers in God. Funerals are well attended and religious. When discussion allows, no one has ever objected to my inference that it is equivalent to say “God said let there be light” and “The Big Bang”, and it gives everyone breathing room when we’re talking about these momentous things, that are also “common and ordinary”.

It is not right to talk of God as either matter or energy, since they are equivalent, and God is outside of the effects of time to begin with - and therefore can not be contained in either description.

As far as the uncertainty principle stuff, though, dayglored, I have to disagree. I DO believe that there are events which are completely probabilistic and not simply because of the effect of the infinity of events which have happened. God, since he exists outside of time, has been able to see (and if he wished could affect) the outcome of those totally probabilistic events, but that does not make them any more determinate or dependent on the past or current state of the universe. I accept your disagreement on this as being a possibility also, though.

I’m annoyed as many have been about the Higgs somehow being known as a “god particle”. It has always bothered me, and I’m happy to see that it bothers others, too.


70 posted on 03/14/2009 8:26:44 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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