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Bristol Palin breaks up with fiance Levi Johnston
Herald Sun ^ | 12 March 2009

Posted on 03/11/2009 7:11:52 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

SARAH Palin's teenage Bristol has broken off her engagement to Levi Johnston two months after the birth of their child.

The 18-year-old daughter of the Alaskan Governor told the Associated Press (AP) she was "devastated" by the split.

"Unfortunately, my family has seen many people say and do many things to 'cash in' on the Palin name," she said in a statement.

"Sometimes that greed clouds good judgment and the truth."

Mr Johnston, 19, told AP the pair had mutually decided to end their relationship.

Bristol Palin's pregnancy was announced last summer days after her mother was named John McCain's running mate on the Republican presidential ticket.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: bristolpalin; engagement; levijohnston; palinfamily; sarahpalin
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To: GOPsterinMA; Carry_Okie
The reality is that, while there are exceptions, children are better off even with abusive fathers than without them.” Are you for real? Are you serious? Wow.

No, CO is right. Just about every study of rates of deliquency, addiction and welfare dependency shows that even authoritarian, unhappy and horrid parents are better (overall) than single parents. Being bashed and yelled at by an abusive father is very damaging, but most people who suffer like that can move on and rebuild their lives. No so those raised amid instability and a succession of "mother's boyfriends."

Communities where single mothers are the norm become absolute nightmares. There is a level of disadvantage which no amount of money can fix.

This is a crisis in Western civilization and we need to address it - all of us, right across the political spectrum.

101 posted on 03/11/2009 9:50:40 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: ketsu

This is one of the most horrible posts I’ve ever read. You should be ashamed of yourself.

It’s things like this that give Conservatives a bad name......


102 posted on 03/11/2009 9:52:44 PM PDT by 4everfree2001
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To: rintense
This is Sarah Palin’s fault for forcing her family on the national stage. /s

In a very sad way thats correct. True of all the national level politicians children, R or D, sick as that might be.

103 posted on 03/11/2009 9:55:49 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: TomServo
If this was Chelsea Clinton, half the membership here would be screaming “WHORE!!” whilst painting her head with a Scarlet “S”. Damned Hypocrites

Correct, but it's kind of pointless now. Since Palin entered the race, there's been a huge shift on this issue on the R side, no matter how many deny it.

Ultimately, it will make some people more accepting of this kind of situation. Whether or not that's a good thing overall, it's actually correcting the attitude you mention. We can't be pro-life and then castigate those who, out of wedlock, don't choose abortion.

Just call it growing pains.

104 posted on 03/11/2009 9:56:25 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist behind enemy lines in Boston and Cambridge)
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To: Carry_Okie

“The reality is that, while there are exceptions, children are better off even with abusive fathers than without them.”

I would like to see the statistics on this statement. Link or source would be helpful. I have never read or seen any documentation of what you have just stated....just the opposite.


105 posted on 03/11/2009 9:59:48 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty
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To: Aussie Dasher

I had a feeling this was coming.


106 posted on 03/11/2009 10:06:50 PM PDT by ponygirl ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." -T. Jefferson)
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To: Shyla

I know the baby won’t be on welfare, but it’s likely the boy will be permanently angry/upset at his father for flaking out, or at the Palins, if he decides that they pushed his father away. Obviously, kids need emotional health and stability in addition to diapers & food.

It’s sad that the culture often champions the view that it’s cruel, or “abandonment,” or unnatural to give the baby up for adoption, when in fact it gives the baby a better life. Often, the single mothers keeping these babies are doing it for self-focused reasons: to hold onto a connection with the father; to obtain what they believe will be unconditional love from the baby, because that is missing in their own lives; and, in some circles, for status. None of this is good for the baby.

My cousin is adopted & has always been grateful & relieved that things turned out that way - even though her biological father was wealthy & could have provided for her.

Friends of mine adopted a baby who was, I believe, the third illegitimate child of a young single mother. The grandparents were in the picture, so there was an extended family presence. The mother and grandfather thought they should keep the baby in the family, since they’d gone down that path before. Fortunately, the grandmother realized that wasn’t turning out well for the 2 older kids, so she stepped in and successfully lobbied for the adoption, knowing the baby would have a better life with my more mature, stable, responsible, married friends. Now, he is the focus of his adoptive parents’ lives. He definitely seems to thrive on the balance of having both parents readily available. He has attention & opportunity that he would not have had in the single parent home. As a result, he is precocious, well-mannered and very self-confident. It seems cruel to think of stifling his potential in the name of leaving him where he landed at birth.


107 posted on 03/11/2009 10:09:50 PM PDT by Belle22
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To: Belle22

I will reply to this tomorrow. Tis late and I have to get up early.

Not against adoption but have some arguements as to why I would not.

Have a great evening.


108 posted on 03/11/2009 10:12:23 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: BlessingsofLiberty; BlackVeil
I would like to see the statistics on this statement. Link or source would be helpful. I have never read or seen any documentation of what you have just stated....just the opposite.

As I said, I'm completing a book right now on a completely separate topic (18hr days). There is enough documentation on this topic that I'm sure if you are truly curious you will find it. See post #101; you may want to ask Black Veil.

109 posted on 03/11/2009 10:19:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie
The reality is that, while there are exceptions, children are better off even with abusive fathers than without them.

All abusive fathers, without exception, should lose custody of their children forever. In addition, you seem to be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Get some help.

110 posted on 03/11/2009 10:24:48 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: papasmurf

Agreed. And sad.


111 posted on 03/11/2009 10:33:14 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: Shyla

because she’s not poor and on welfare is no excuse, they need to get married and deal with the consequences.


112 posted on 03/11/2009 10:37:46 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: BlackVeil
Just about every study of rates of deliquency, addiction and welfare dependency shows that even authoritarian, unhappy and horrid parents are better (overall) than single parents. Being bashed and yelled at by an abusive father is very damaging, but most people who suffer like that can move on and rebuild their lives.

You are so wrong I don't even know where to start. Your "studies" are fictions, your statement is padded with the parenthetical use of the conditional term "overall" and your flip dismissal of "people who suffer like that" is clearly based on rank ignorance. In fact, parental abuse is so horrific precisely because trauma experienced as a child from parents destroys fundamental trust. As a result, it escapes even the best efforts of the adult to reach it with almost any therapies and becomes ever more toxic over time, leading to the generational destruction of families. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

113 posted on 03/11/2009 10:38:54 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Carry_Okie

“There is enough documentation on this topic that I’m sure if you are truly curious you will find it. See post #101; you may want to ask Black Veil.”

I am not going to waste my time looking for something that I KNOW does not exist in reality.


114 posted on 03/11/2009 10:39:19 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty
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To: ketsu

Interesting post.


115 posted on 03/11/2009 10:43:57 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: 4everfree2001
This is one of the most horrible posts I’ve ever read. You should be ashamed of yourself.

It’s things like this that give Conservatives a bad name......

No ill will intended. However, conservatives should leave the namby-pambyism to the liberals. Actions have consequences and those consequences are different for different people. That's reality.
116 posted on 03/11/2009 10:44:55 PM PDT by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: Darkwolf377
"Correct, but it's kind of pointless now. Since Palin entered the race, there's been a huge shift on this issue on the R side, no matter how many deny it."

Not good. I won't be changing my opinion that it's better in most instances for the parents in such cases to either marry or give the baby up for adoption. But if the father won't agree to the marriage, in this instance, there is little that can be done.

Years ago men felt it was their responsibility to do so in such situations. Not today. Most unfortunate.

117 posted on 03/11/2009 10:50:14 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: ketsu

Years ago most men felt the responsibility to marry in such situations and did. Not today. As a society we need to reverse the current trend and again raise responsible men and women.


118 posted on 03/11/2009 10:56:40 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: TAdams8591
Years ago most men felt the responsibility to marry in such situations and did. Not today. As a society we need to reverse the current trend and again raise responsible men and women.

Great idea. How can this be done?

119 posted on 03/11/2009 11:03:38 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Griddlee
Never understood Savages hatred of Palin. Any time he brings it up he sounds like a Hollywood liberal as he makes fun of their clothing and the way they look.
120 posted on 03/11/2009 11:14:02 PM PDT by warsaw44
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