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Forbes: Market-to-market rules should stop
Contra Costa Times ^ | 030909 | Forbes

Posted on 03/10/2009 6:13:40 AM PDT by Fred

An accounting rule that requires banks and insurance companies to write down assets to reflect market values is worsening the financial crisis and should be suspended, said Steve Forbes, chief executive officer of Forbes Inc.

"Market-to-market accounting is destroying capital of insurance companies and banks," Forbes said Monday in a Bloomberg Radio interview. "They have to suspend it completely and start over again. It is the equivalent of saying, 'Put your house on the market and sell it by 2 p.m.' You are not going to get a very good price for it."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bailout; bhostimulus; crime; fanniemae; first100days; forbes; freddiemac; porkulus; tarp; taxes; wallstreet
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To: giobruno
Right now anything other than mark-to-market is the bankers' equivalent of the no-documentation liar's loan that was so popular earlier this decade.... sure I make $200k per year as a ditch digger and no you can't see my paycheck or 1040.
21 posted on 03/10/2009 7:38:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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To: Fred
"Market-to-market accounting is destroying capital of insurance companies and banks," Forbes said Monday in a Bloomberg Radio interview.

No, fraudulent use of leverage destroyed the capital of insurance companies and banks. The answer is to bring the bad debt out into the open and default it so we can begin the process of restoring trust in the financial markets, not to provide a mechanism for further obfuscation.

But the entities at risk bought and paid for quite a few politicians, and they are now demanding the agreed-upon service in return.

Steve Forbes does know better, he is just proving once and for all whose side he is on. And if you are an honest businessman, it isn't yours. This alliance with the tricksters who call themselves "capitalists" has killed the Republican Party - Democrats formed the same alliance but have done a much better job of avoiding association with them in the public mind.

22 posted on 03/10/2009 7:39:03 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Fred

more than anything else, the mark to market accounting rule is stopping any attempt at economic recovery cold. I am convinced that it is the #1 cause of the mess we are in.

it needs to be reversed or suspended asap


23 posted on 03/10/2009 7:49:09 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: 7thOF7th

I had to posted it as printed or else the viking kitty would have been showing up along with xcamel..I do not think they ever sleep


24 posted on 03/10/2009 7:58:55 AM PDT by Fred (Proud Member of the Obama Enemies List)
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To: Ford4000
Saying it is either mark-to-market or misrepresentation is a false choice.

In a discussion of the present subject, I disagree.

The credit markets froze, if I understand it correctly, because nobody could figure out what the value of the other guy's assets were. Propagating that condition, as Mr. Forbes proposes to do, seems to me to be exactly the opposite of helpful.

Would you extend a loan to someone who's pledged $100 million in assets, when you don't know if those assets are actually GM shares valued using a one year rolling average?

Neither would anybody else.

25 posted on 03/10/2009 8:50:46 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Would you extend a loan to someone who's pledged $100 million in assets, when you don't know if those assets are actually GM shares valued using a one year rolling average?

One of the reasons the credit markets froze was the hoarding of cash to meet government reserve requirements. I'll bet the same mechanism is hurting GM, too.

26 posted on 03/10/2009 9:49:00 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: Fred

Can’t believe all the people on here bashing an adjustment to Mark-to-market. Using cash flows or other methods isn’t mythology, and much more like reality than the current “market” for these assets. All of the bailout money is going to backfill the damage from the 2007 changes to mark-to-market accounting. There will be losses, but taking all the pain now - even for things that are cash flow positive is just stupid and is costing us all a huge amount of money.


27 posted on 03/10/2009 2:49:04 PM PDT by phothus
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To: Ford4000
One of the reasons the credit markets froze was the hoarding of cash to meet government reserve requirements. I'll bet the same mechanism is hurting GM, too.

Then are we not also talking about effectively suspending government reserve requirements by allowing accountants to overstate the assets of their business?

When GM sold off GMAC, they offloaded the vast majority of their toxic asset problem from their spreadsheet. They further wrote down $39 odd billion of unusable deferred tax credits in 2007, leaving them now with a simple "expenditures greater than income" problem, which we the taxpayers are kindly helping them through. (Ugh)

28 posted on 03/10/2009 6:01:52 PM PDT by Hoplite
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