Posted on 03/05/2009 4:03:57 PM PST by AJ in NYC
A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer. In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires. In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. But the lawsuit argues it is a fake and that Obama was actually born in his father's homeland of Kenya, even though Hawaiian officials have said the document is authentic. "This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion. The lawsuit didn't even use Obama's legal name but called him "Barry Soetoro," the name he went by while attending elementary school in Indonesia. It's one of many that has been filed claiming Obama is ineligible to serve as president. Robertson ordered plaintiff's attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out.
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Sandler & Reiff/Sandler, Reiff & Young. Over $750k charged to DNC...not exactly Pro Bono.
No. That would only be if one accepted your silly notion that natural-born means the same thing as native-born (which it clearly does not) and that there are only two classes of citizens.
Naturalized is the past tense of a transitive verb. I know you wish to obscure the meaning of this English language that we use, but it is. Your use of this word would imply that there was some specific time when Thomas Jefferson was naturalized, which you know is nonsense. The Constitution itself refers to Jefferson as "a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of [the]Constitution," which means he was already a Citizen of the United States at that time. There was no naturalization, but he wasn't natural-born in their eyes. Words mean things, and it is unclear to me why you should wish to deny what the Framers plainly meant.
ML/NJ
If a noob uses the terms “Obama derangement syndrome,” “wingnuts,” “birthers,” “9-11 truthers,” or “we need to move on,” you can be sure of what you are dealing with.
It would be silly if the Constitution mentioned three forms of citizenship rather than two. Or if the Constitution defined the difference between native born and natural born. Of if U.S. law made a difference between them and defined more that two forms of citizenship. Or if the Supreme Court had ruled there were three or more forms of citizenship. But none of that is true.
Your use of this word would imply that there was some specific time when Thomas Jefferson was naturalized, which you know is nonsense.
Not at all. If Thomas Jefferson was not naturalized then he would be natural born. And if he was a natural born citizen then there would be no need for that clause in Article II.
ML/NJ
Just because they charged the DNC in the past does not mean they charged Obama for these motions to dismiss.
Nearly all Lawyers do some pro-bono work. No lawyer does all his work pro-bono.
It's also possible they are working on retainer, in which case they get paid a flat fee and the motions to dismiss would not have cost anything extra.
Face it. You have no evidence Obama has spent a dime defending these lawsuits.
You don't recover/threaten to pursue fees on matters taken pro bono. Case closed. Move onto a subject in which you have some semblance of a clue.
That is proving to be a very short list...
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