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States fearing mandates assert rights
Washington Times ^ | February 20, 2009 | David M. Dickson

Posted on 02/19/2009 6:39:58 PM PST by ForGod'sSake

Worried the federal government is increasing its dominance over their affairs, several states are pursuing legislative action to assert their sovereignty under the 10th Amendment of the Constitution in hopes of warding off demands from Washington on how to spend money or enact policy. The growing concerns even have a handful of governors questioning whether to accept federal stimulus money that comes with strings attached.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Hawaii; US: Michigan; US: Missouri; US: Montana; US: Oklahoma; US: South Carolina; US: Texas; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; cwii; statesrights; yeeehaaa
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To: Sax

The States’ rights were not “granted” by the Constitution. The People delegated limited authority to the federal government through the written Constitution. The People also delegated separate authority to their individual State. The People also retained individual rights from government - many of these are reflected in the Bill of Rights.

There were separate special constitutional conventions called both for the formation of each State and the formation of “federal” government.


61 posted on 02/19/2009 11:29:49 PM PST by marsh2
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To: freedumb2003
That, and its sister, the 9th, have been dead for at least 30 years.

You're a little off. It's more like 160 years.

Started with Lincoln, if you remember.

62 posted on 02/20/2009 5:36:18 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: ForGod'sSake

BUMPITY-BUMP-BUMP-BUMP! :)


63 posted on 02/20/2009 7:12:43 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

I think the commie left started this push 2 generations too soon. They forgot about us old folk that don’t really care anymore.
They have robbed the social security that we have work all of our lives for. Now trying to take all of our freedoms.
They need to remember one thing “Desperate people have nothing to live for, thus they have no fear.
I say Lock and Load. I am ready, bring it on.


64 posted on 02/20/2009 7:16:24 AM PST by Old Texan
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To: ForGod'sSake

Very nicely said and I couldn’t agree more. The key is for the States to act in unison (as much as possible) to stake out these 10th Amendment positions. One here and one there and you are pretty much left with SCOTUS rulings.

Again, very well put and I agree completely.


65 posted on 02/20/2009 8:42:50 AM PST by karibdes (It's not a perfect world. Screws fall out.)
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To: Sax

Hurrah, hurrah, for states rights hurrah.


66 posted on 02/20/2009 8:43:35 AM PST by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Naspino

It seems to me that what has happened boils down to taxation without representation. Even though we had our (Republican) representatives ready to represent us, they were not allowed to. How is this any different than not having any representatives at all? We will be taxed without having been represented. And the rate of taxation already is far greater than King George III ever even thought about!


67 posted on 02/20/2009 8:54:45 AM PST by nanetteclaret (Texas is not just a place, it's a state of mind...)
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To: Army Air Corps

I absolutely love this. As Yanks we’re finally taking OUR country back.

I wonder how Obama is handling this. I imagine he’s remained curled in a fetal position while Michelle barks orders to her minions.

I wonder if he’s barfed so much due to stress that he’s dry heaving.


68 posted on 02/20/2009 9:01:34 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: flaglady47

“Rock and roll!”

I say “lock and load”.


I say, “Let´s roll.”


69 posted on 02/20/2009 9:01:58 AM PST by villagerjoel ("Gun control is a prerequisite for genocide." - Unknown)
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To: ichabod1

Great how this resurgement in states’ rights is happening under the most leftist government in history.

I imagined something like this happening. McCain would have helped us along the way, but with Obama in office I think a lot of people have a fire finally lit under them.


70 posted on 02/20/2009 9:03:57 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Related story:

The Winds Of Civil War: Illinois-Driven Marxist Attempt To Conquer Union
71 posted on 02/20/2009 9:05:22 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
BUMPITY-BUMP-BUMP-BUMP!

Reminds me of an old truck I used to have...

72 posted on 02/20/2009 9:13:04 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: tacticalogic
The Constitution does not grant the States any rights. They had them before the Constitution and the federal government existed.

The Constitution does not grant the States any rights, since only people have rights. -- People had them before the Constitution and the federal government existed and people can only grant powers to local, state and federal gov'ts..

73 posted on 02/20/2009 9:49:17 AM PST by jtom36
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To: djsherin
The 10th Amendment, and the Constitution as a whole, doesn’t grant rights; it recognizes them and denies the federal government the power to violate said rights.

The 10th Amendment, and the Constitution as a whole, doesn’t grant rights; it recognizes them and denies local, state and federal government the power to violate said rights.

74 posted on 02/20/2009 9:51:49 AM PST by jtom36
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To: Niuhuru

He doesn’t seem to care. He rather seems to be enjoying himself, that’s what’s got many of us even more steamed.


75 posted on 02/20/2009 9:56:14 AM PST by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Niuhuru

You got that right. Things were bad enough under Bush, but these trillions are just flat unacceptable.


76 posted on 02/20/2009 9:57:00 AM PST by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: ForGod'sSake
Many of the sovereignty resolutions under consideration in the states will not have the force of law. Even if they did, said Mr. Alt, "through the supremacy clause in the U.S. Constitution, so long as a federal statute is constitutional, it would trump state law."

~snip~

Huh? Can anybody help me out here with this "supremacy clause" legalese?

Our Constitution is the supreme "Law of the Land", and all officials in the USA are bound by oath to support/defend it, - the " Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding"..

77 posted on 02/20/2009 9:58:45 AM PST by jtom36
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To: jtom36

It denies a lot more to the federal government than to the state and local governments.


78 posted on 02/20/2009 10:01:42 AM PST by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: marsh2
The States’ rights were not “granted” by the Constitution. The People delegated limited authority to the federal government through the written Constitution. The People also delegated separate authority to their individual State. The People also retained individual rights from government - many of these are reflected in the Bill of Rights.

Well said..
It should also be noted that the "delegated separate authority to their individual State", cannot authorizer a local or state gov't to deny people their rights to life, liberty or property, without due process of [constitutional] law.

79 posted on 02/20/2009 10:08:10 AM PST by jtom36
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To: Old Texan
They need to remember one thing “Desperate people have nothing to live for, thus they have no fear.

Indeed. The country I grew up in is hardly recognizable any more; barely distinguishable from many of the tinpot tyrannies we loathe, past and present. Our Constitution, a magnificantly constructed docement designed by a small group of old men many years ago was, and is a masterpiece of self government. Very nearly flawless in its design by most any account. It has thwarted the efforts of many a would-be king for the better part of 200 years.

As early a statesman as George Washington issued a number of timeless warnings in his farewell address. One of which was to guard against those that would usurp the powers of the Contsitution under various guises, many of which we have seen come to pass in our time. He, and most of our other Founders were a discerning lot if nothing else. Well educated for the most part, and again for the most part, dedicated to creating a document and a government that would withstand the inevitable attacks by our would-be rulers.

I think it's fair to say, something went wrong. "We the People", along with our guardians, the states, having lost an internal "struggle", being bludgeoned for decades, including all manner of rhetorical nonsense from power pimps, and what became a less than worthless, compliant "press", and well, here we are.

I don't have the ability to dissect the problem to determine more specifically if there are "construction issues" that could be addressed, that is, our Constitution itself, or if it's more a matter of implementation. I suspect the latter. Which of course begs the question, what now?

I say Lock and Load. I am ready, bring it on.

In the words of another statesman, "ditto".

80 posted on 02/20/2009 10:15:18 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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