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To: metmom

Did I say that child porn and sexualization of children should be swept under the rug? I said this woman is a nutcase. She tried to say Playboy and Penthouse are purveyors of child porn because they had cartoons, images or photos of children in their magazines 6,000 times between 1954-1994. None of these were actually child porn, and Reagan’s Justice Department refused to publish the results of her 700k study. Yeah, I stand behind Victorian paranoia with this woman. If Playboy and Penthouse are child porn then 90% of Freepers could have been locked up at one time or another for possession of child porn.


27 posted on 02/16/2009 6:26:12 PM PST by AUH2O Repub (Should have been Thompson/Hutchinson)
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To: AUH2O Repub
Let’s fight Bam-Bam’s abortion policies and support for planned parenthood, not get caught up with the prudes.

The article is about sex ed in public schools and what it's based on, not about Penthouse and Playboy. Try to stay on topic.

It is not prudish or paranoia to protect children against the kind of sexualization that a public education sex ed program will result in.

Downplaying the sexualization of children by attempting to focus everyone's attention on other issues, isn't going to fly here, either.

Blowing it off by stating that we *not get caught up with the prudes*, says that you don't object to that.

32 posted on 02/16/2009 8:01:09 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AUH2O Repub; metmom; Alamo-Girl

Repub wrote, “I said this woman is a nutcase. She tried to say Playboy and Penthouse are purveyors of child porn because they had cartoons, images or photos of children in their magazines 6,000 times between 1954-1994. None of these were actually child porn, and Reagan’s Justice Department refused to publish the results of her 700k study. Yeah, I stand behind Victorian paranoia with this woman. If Playboy and Penthouse are child porn then 90% of Freepers could have been locked up at one time or another for possession of child porn.”

Spirited: That you disagree with Reismans’ claim is beside the point. Pornography is a downward spiraling process that if not stopped, will completely engulf, dehumanize, and eroticize an entire society. It starts with the objectification of the female body-—all users of porn are ‘users’ of someone elses’ body parts, btw-—moves ever downward to older youth, then to children, to babies, to animals, and even to objects. America looks increasingly like Carthage when Augustine arrived there. In his memorable words, in Carthage can be heard the ‘sizzling and frying of unholy loves’——anything went.

All defenders of Playboy, Hustler, etc., are in fact defending an ‘unholy right’ to use for their own personal gratification the objectified body parts of someone else.

Before man can do harm to another of his kind, he must first dehumanize (objectify) the other. In order that they could slaughter millions of people, the Soviets literally conditioned soldiers to view others as weeds, animals, pond scum, etc., as verified by the authors of The Black Book of Communism. Sex predators put themselves through the same unholy process. So do abortionists, and so do users of pornography.


35 posted on 02/17/2009 5:20:43 AM PST by spirited irish
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