Posted on 02/16/2009 9:40:48 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Surtsey still surprises
by David Catchpoole
After the island of Surtsey was born of a huge undersea volcanic eruption off Iceland in 1963,1 geologists were astonished at what they found.
As one wrote: On Surtsey, only a few months sufficed for a landscape to be created which was so varied and mature that it was almost beyond belief.2
There were wide sandy beaches, gravel banks, impressive cliffs, soft undulating land, faultscarps, gullies and channels and boulders worn by the surf (see picture left), some of which were almost round, on an abrasion platform cut into the cliff.2 And all of this despite the extreme youth3 of the island!
The geologists surprise is understandable, given the modern thinking that young Surtseys varied and mature features ought to have needed long periods of timemillions of yearsto form....
(Excerpt) Read more at creationontheweb.com ...
hehehe
but, but
it’s sssccciiiiiieeence!
Volcanic islands do green up quickly as Hawaii can attest.
Quite an interesting article.
[[You cant credibly support your argument with a link to creationism.org!]]
What a load odf crap- How about refuting what was said instead of engaging in rediculous claims abou5t what ‘can and can not’ be used for evidence, eh? If not- Bye Bye!
Do you really not see the circular reasoning of using a creationism link to support your thesis? Really?
GGGuts and I have had along running discussion on the meaning of the Hebrew in Genesis and if we do so here it’ll swallow up this thread. (he thinks he’s right, you see).
But I don’t think we’ve bickered ‘cause the finger in the eye only went to the first knuckle.
GGG et. al.,
This entire discussion and original post is regarding geology. Not biology. Evolution is biology.
I know you guys have a boner for all things anti-science, and like to lump them together, but c’mon... your irrational dogma based disdain for evolution is clouding your entire lives now.
GEOLOGY, people. Now you can attack that whole established branch of science. I guess astronomy is next.
No geo in evo? The Temple of Darwinism rebukes you per temple attendant Scott:
Debates and the Globetrotters
by Eugenie Scott
“ Evolution applies to astronomy, physics, chemistry, biochemistry, anthropology, biology, geology — you name the field, and evolution will relate to it, like as not...”
Fantasy!
Sedimentary layers form quite quickly, especially when the waters that deposit them are boiling hot, with dissolved carbonates at super saturated levels as with Surtsey, and the Genesis judgement.
This is going to come as bad news for all the people on here arguing that the grand canyon HAS to be ga-jillions of years old.
Oh, and anyone that doesn’t believe it’s ga-jillions of years old is stupid and hates science.
No meteor, just the Genesis judgement that severed Pangea into the present continents.
Are you really ogign to, per usual, simply wave your hand and pretend the site has NO credible science on it?
Yeah- thought so-
Here's the trick, we already know there are OLDER VERSIONS of all the stories in Genesis ~ it was "copied"!
And you know what copying does, right?
Mistakes are made.
Most disturbing is that Moses appear to have simply discarded about 1200 pages of interesting stories about animals and what they do.
Without those stories in hand you don't really have a good idea what Moses meant to convey.
When someone's willing to bite off that much territory and his "companions" don't argue with him about it, what are the opponents to do?
If evolution means nothing more than "change", mixing paint is "evolution". Something tells me the better minds among evolutionists can come up with something more sophisticated than that.
I don’t think you mean ALL the storie of Genesis, just the big ones that everyone remembers from Sunday School.
I’d be very interested in links to Babylonian or Egyptian precusors to the stories of Abraham, Jacob or Joseph, for instance.
There is, of course, absolutely no precursor to the story of Abraham—it completely eviscerates the legitimacy of polytheism, which was essential to the political relations of the early civilisations around the Fertile Crescent.
We know an Egyptian came up with it ~ and the Egyptians later did their darndest to hide the idea from us.
Speaking of the “big stories” the Hindus have their own equally old version of Noah. However, it was modified later on by someone interested in inserting the Messiah into the middle (manifest in his persona as the Great Cobra with 8 heads).
I can't believe You're serious!
Are you for real?
Soooo, the scientists on the dole and arguing manmade global warming on behalf of algoreacle's hotair cult, where the debate is over, and the establishment liberals in "higher" education, including their so-called peer review articles on evolution, meanwhile get a complete free pass?
Are YOU serious?
Very true; nobody but you has mentioned anything but geology.
"Evolution is biology."
Sorry, no cigar. - Evolution is a tennet of uniformitarian faith; Biology is the study of the mechanics of life. Never shall the two meet.
Whatever you are smoking, you should consider giving it up.
Akhen-aten came up with monotheism as part of his campaign to break the power of the Egyptian priests; he didn’t abandon his entire social system and social status as an act of faith in the One True God who revealed himself to him.
The story of Abraham is subversive of the world in a way that a Pharaoah’s cult of personality could never be.
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