Posted on 02/10/2009 7:27:57 AM PST by BP2
Go tell Shauna (your boss)to show proof he is. Until he does, it's never going away and don't think that by coming here that all attention is focused on the BC. There are many things that are being not said on here. You think that they are going to post the good stuff here and let you endlessly drone on and attempt to refute it? Hell no. There is solid evidence, growing each day and you aren't going to get it out of them on here.
obumpa
First of all no nation has ever past such a silly law. And there would be no tangible or intangible connection to that nation for the citizens of the United States if a nation passed such absurdity.
Second, Obama lived in Indonesia and most likely still has an Indonesian citizenship. He traveled to Pakistan probably on an Indonesian passport. So questioning Obama's divided loyalty to our nation is very credible and that divided loyalty to other nation(s) is adverse to the US Constitution.
No, the burden isn't on him. He's already the President. He showed whatever he was required to show. If you want to get anywhere you need to produce proof that he isn't eligible.
If not exposed after all legal avenues are extinquished, non legal efforts will expose it. Blackmail, Someone selling it to the Enquirer, ....someone will think the effort is worth the consequences."
All this *assumes* that he really isn't eligible. Where is the proof of that?
I can expect people not believe in things for which they have no evidence. Clearly there are people here who are convinced he is not eligible in fact. I'm asking them for their proof.
Dr. Edwin Vieira does not believe a he is a NBC and that it will come out. All of Obama’s actions with the fake COLB, the factcheck.org submitted to the court as evidence, the sealed records and many other things are proof he is covering it up. Why?
If you are so sure then why are you bothering posting. Obama’s people are concerned and posts like your are just more proof.
It is not relevant to his "natural born citizenship". Why should he dispute it? His father's status, or citizenship that some other country grants him, has no bearing.
However, if it's found out later that he's not a natural born citizen he loses Constitutional legitimacy.
I hope so. I think the military will walk in large numbers. Some shill on another web site was saying how much the active military likes Obama and did not like Bush.
What is with Ed Hale? I stopped listening to him. I think Steve Pidgeon has some evidence and is laying low for now and is working with Orly. Orly is relentless.
Your position is illogical, unsustainable, and just let's the fraud accusations continue.
Nobody said they did. The question was what if they did? By the logic being used here, Togo could disqualify everyone from being President. Does that make sense?
"So questioning Obama's divided loyalty to our nation is very credible and that divided loyalty to other nation(s) is adverse to the US Constitution."
Questioning his divided loyalty is *certainly* appropriate. But it's a political issue. The election is over.
"Your position is illogical, unsustainable, and just let's the fraud accusations continue."
You don't have that evidence! That's exactly why you bring it up. So you can't base conclusions on evidence you don't have. Don't tell me *I'm* being illogical. Geez.
It's one thing to want to see some documents nobody has, and to speculate about what's in them. It's another thing completely to believe in a conclusion for which there is no evidence.
*IF* it's found out later. I'm asking right now what proof exists that he is in fact ineligible? Those people who already believe it, what basis do they have?
The documents exist. The records officer in Hawaii admitted that. One of the universities said they have his records but can't release them.
Just like Kerry and Clinton, he is hiding what all the others made public. Except in this case it goes to the constitutional requirement. He is obligated to show that he is qualified. Not expect all of us to prove the negative.
You have chosen not to respond to why he is acting like a guilty party. The reason is there is no legitimate explanation for a president to hide such critical information from the public.
No evidence is not the same as "no proof". The proof could very well be on his long form birth certificate. Evidence is mounting. His own cabinet appointee, since withdrawn, stated he was an immigrant. A friend of his mother puts him in Seattle as a very young baby. The fact that the address shown in the birth announcement, and thus likely on whatever paperwork was used to generate it, was owned by someone else and never shows up as the residence of BHO Sr, or S.A. Dunham. Lots of evidence, not yet proof.
But proof that he was born in the US would be easy for him to provide, but he not done so. (Yes I know he's not been compelled to so, but that doesn't mean he couldn't).
If one is born in the US, there is no other prerequisite to be a "natural born citizen".
bttt
So what? My great grandfather immigrated from Italy in 1913. Under Italian law, I'm considered an Italian citizen. If I produce a bunch of paperwork and show them, I can get an Italian passport. Am I a natural born citizen? After all, my parents were American citizens, my grandparents were American citizens. But because of an Italian law, I'm considered an Italian citizen.
Second, Obama lived in Indonesia and most likely still has an Indonesian citizenship. He traveled to Pakistan probably on an Indonesian passport.
Based on what evidence? You're not going to pull out that alleged travel ban to Pakistan again, are you? That's been utterly discredited by this time.
So questioning Obama's divided loyalty to our nation is very credible and that divided loyalty to other nation(s) is adverse to the US Constitution.
What credible affirmative evidence have birthers actually come up with? You've got a couple of affidavits, one of them apparently signed under a false name, and you've got a school ledger from Indonesia.
Write a letter to the president. Tell him you know he's qualified, but you are trying to convince some idiots on a web site. Tell him you want to shut them and the millions of others up for the next 8 years. Ask him to open his records, so we can prove what idiots they are.
I'll co-sign the letter.
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