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Senators Reach Accord on Stimulus Plan as Jobs Vanish (Collins, Snowe, Specter)
New York Times ^ | February 8, 2009 | Carl Hulse and David M. Herszenhorn

Posted on 02/07/2009 3:58:27 AM PST by reaganaut1

WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats reached an agreement with Republican moderates on Friday to pare a huge economic recovery measure, clearing the way for approval of [the package].

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The fine print was not immediately available, and the numbers were shifting. But in essence, the Democratic leadership and two centrist Republicans announced they had struck a deal on about $110 billion in cuts to the roughly $900 billion legislation — a deal expected to provide at least the 60 votes needed to send the bill out of the Senate and into negotiations with the House, which has passed its own version.

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The details were negotiated at an afternoon meeting in the office of the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, involving Mr. Reid, other top Democrats and two Republicans, Susan Collins of Maine and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania. After they came to terms, the senators brought in the White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, for assurance that the deal was acceptable to the administration. Mr. Emanuel signaled it was.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: collins; porkulus; snowe; specter; stimulus; susancollins
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What can the Republicans do to punish Collins, Snowe, and Specter? Are they going to betray Republicans on future key votes such as EFCA (removing the secret ballot for unionization elections)?

The Democrats will own this "stimulus" and be held responsible for its (lack of) results. That is the glimmer of hope I see.

1 posted on 02/07/2009 3:58:27 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
“The Democrats will own this “stimulus” and be held responsible for its (lack of) results.”

No you are wrong. When this monstrosity fails miserably, it will be a bipartisan disaster because of these three Judas. The true tally of how many Dems and Repubs voted for it will not be told to the stupid American public, it will be just reported as having bipartisan support.

2 posted on 02/07/2009 4:03:49 AM PST by CapnJack
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To: reaganaut1

Two Centirst Republicans my big fat patoot.

Calling these two RINO’s centrist Republicans is a disgrace to centrist Republicans. These two ignorant slimeballs just threw 800 billion dollars in the Democrat toilet. May they rot in hell.


3 posted on 02/07/2009 4:05:01 AM PST by Venturer
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To: reaganaut1
Collins, Snow & Specter...the “Three Stooges” of the Gelding Old Party!

Can't they find anyone in ME to replace the “Pigeon Sisters!”

Well, we can only hope that the GOP will get a testicle & spine implant before next year so we can start replacing some of the morons on both sides of the isle in Congress.

Hussein will be just another Jimmy Carter...”one & done!”

4 posted on 02/07/2009 4:10:04 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Venturer
Inhofe Statement on Stimulus Compromise

Contacts: Matt Dempsey 202-224-9797 Elizabeth French 202-224-8260 February 6, 2009

WASHINGTON, DC - U.S. Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.), issued the following statement tonight after the announcement of a compromise on the Senate stimulus bill. "While I appreciate the efforts of my colleagues to bring down the price tag of this bill, the fact is we still face a trillion dollar spending bill. Making it worse, the bill is 93% spending and only 7% stimulation.

Over the past few days I have fought to include more in the way of real stimulus through higher percentage of infrastructure and defense spending, while working to cut much of the typical government waste often found in a bill of this size. Yet Democrats have blocked these efforts.

"The good news tonight is that the American people are catching on to the fact that this is the largest spending bill in history and are becoming more and more vocal in their opposition. My offices in Oklahoma and Washington DC have been flooded with emails, phone calls and faxes overwhelmingly opposed to this trillion dollar legislation. They can rest assured that my vote remains an unwavering ‘no.'"

5 posted on 02/07/2009 4:10:13 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: reaganaut1
My comment on another thread was to write letters to the state party chair, all the state officials of the party, and then copy and send the letters to every committee head right on down to the county level.
Bring the heat to the support system for these RINO’s. Then send copies to the local papers.
6 posted on 02/07/2009 4:10:48 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: reaganaut1

“Are they going to betray Republicans on future key
votes...”

It would be better asked as, are they going to betray
America on future key votes?

They can take their thirty pieces of silver and go
to the potters field.


7 posted on 02/07/2009 4:14:00 AM PST by Semper Mark (Raging Infidel)
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To: IrishCatholic
From Ben Stein

For the amount spent we could have given every unemployed person in the United States roughly $75,000.

We could give every person who had lost a job and is now passing through long-term unemployment of six months or longer roughly $300,000.

8 posted on 02/07/2009 4:19:48 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: Lady GOP
This is more than the pork barrel. This is a coup for the constituencies of the party in power and against the idea of a responsible government itself.

A bleak day.

Unfortunately, it is only the latest in a long series of such days stretching across decades of rule by both parties, to the point where truly responsible government is only a distant echo of our forgotten ancestors.

Ben Stein is a writer, lawyer and actor. He lives in Los Angeles and wrote this for The American Spectator’s online service

9 posted on 02/07/2009 4:21:25 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: Lady GOP; All

Not so fast.

This thing hasn’t been voted on yet.

They tried this “we have a deal” bluff back in Sept/Oct too, remember.


10 posted on 02/07/2009 4:41:19 AM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric

They paraded these RINOS last night to make it look like Republicans are on board. Its not Republicans they need to worry about the American public do not support this spending bill.


11 posted on 02/07/2009 4:44:02 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: reaganaut1
Collins, Snowe, Specter

It didn't take prognosticator Jean Dixon or The Mentalist Patrick Jane or Psych Sean Spencer to see this coming.

If it had not been these 3, there were other Pubbies in that so-called Gang of 16 or 18 or 20 who would have stepped up to do the deed.

Now, they will deflect blame by saying they needed to get the bill to the Compromise committee (House and Senate).

Politics as usual and the Pubbies fold --------- again.

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12 posted on 02/07/2009 4:46:36 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Lady GOP
They're not fooling anyone.

Plus, the Dems are always in danger of losing the likes of Nelson and Pryor.

13 posted on 02/07/2009 4:47:27 AM PST by Cedric
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To: Lady GOP

Why give to just the unemployed?


14 posted on 02/07/2009 4:49:36 AM PST by 03A3
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To: TomGuy
Get a clue.

If they only lose 3 RINO senators, that means that over 98% of the GOP House & Senate members stood tall.

98%!

What daheck do you want?

15 posted on 02/07/2009 4:51:38 AM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric

Yes I was wondering how many Dems are defecting here. I would say many must be under pressure from constituents to vote NO to this pork fest.


16 posted on 02/07/2009 4:53:41 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: reaganaut1; raygun

“Socialism Is Legal Plunder” / “Legal Plunder Has Many Names”

You would use the law to oppose socialism? But it is upon the law that socialism itself relies. Socialists desire to practice legal plunder, not illegal plunder. Socialists, like all other monopolists, desire to make the law their own weapon. And when once the law is on the side of socialism, how can it be used against socialism? For when plunder is abetted by the law, it does not fear your courts, your gendarmes, and your prisons. Rather, it may call upon them for help.

Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole — with their common aim of legal plunder — constitute socialism.

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G1809

Thanks to FReeper raygun for the link.


17 posted on 02/07/2009 4:53:46 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Cedric

“What daheck do you want?”

I’d tell you but then I would be banned.

LLS


18 posted on 02/07/2009 5:02:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

That’d be a dream come true.


19 posted on 02/07/2009 5:06:49 AM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric
Why don't you buy a clue?

They were a part of the so-called Gang of 16 or 18 or 20. That means about half of the gang were of each party.

Currently, all they need are 2 to get this passed and to the Compromise Committee. Specter and Collins drew the short straw. Kennedy is supposed to fly in for the vote. If something happens and they need another vote, guess what -- Pubbies have a 3rd in reserve -- Senator Snowe.

If, for some reason, they need another 1 or 2 or 5 or 8 Pubbies, they will find them.


20 posted on 02/07/2009 5:08:21 AM PST by TomGuy
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