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Been there, done that in the Middle East (Victor D. Hanson Alert)
Jewish World Review ^ | February 5, 2009 | Vicrot D. Hanson

Posted on 02/05/2009 9:13:30 AM PST by yoe

With much fanfare, President Barack Obama announced a new effort to end the endless Israeli-Palestinian struggle — by naming a brand-new Middle East envoy, former Sen. George Mitchell.

The announcement was underwhelming, to say the least. For 40 years, we've seen such serial envoys, communiqu�s and peace conferences — and the little that followed from them.

Can anyone distinguish Annapolis, Beirut, Camp David, Geneva, Madrid, Oslo, Taba or Wye River — and all the other places that hosted much-heralded but failed meetings that we can no longer even recall?

Then there the billions of dollars (well over $100 billion) and euros for peace given by the United States and Europe to Egypt, Israel, Jordan and the Palestinians over the last half-century. Not to mention all those ballyhooed United Nations decrees — Resolutions 242, 338, 1397, 1515 and others — likewise lost to our collective memory.

The Israeli withdrawal from the Sinai nearly 30 years ago was supposed to have led to a general peace.

So was the withdrawal from Lebanon. So was the withdrawal from Gaza.

We also used to hear that the Israeli-Palestinian struggle was "really" about Egypt's ruler Gamal Nasser (1956-1970) and his pan-Arabic movement. Then it was really about the Cold War and the Soviet Union. Then it was really about Saddam Hussein and Iraq. Now it is really about Iran.

Well before Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad promised to destroy Israel, Saddam said the same thing. And well before Saddam, Nasser promised destruction of the "Zionist entity." And so on with almost every Middle East strongman dating back to Israel's creation.

The current "benchmarks" and "roadmap" toward peace in the region simply follow earlier failed formulas with similarly catchy names.

Remember all those brilliant American statesmen, like the current George Mitchell, who were sent over to find the "missing peace" but came home empty-handed — James Baker, Philip Habib, Gen. James Jones, Henry Kissinger, Sol Linowitz, Condoleezza Rice, Dennis Ross and Gen. Anthony Zinni?

And then there's former President Jimmy Carter, who always seems to be loudly advising everyone to read his latest book to learn how they can solve the crisis.

In the early 2000s, we were told that peace would come when the old calcified rivals — Ariel Sharon and Yasser Arafat — vacated the scene. Their passing would allow a new generation of leaders on both sides to negotiate without the ghosts of the 1967 or 1973 wars. Instead, new leaders gave us new wars in Lebanon and Gaza.

While the names of Palestinian terrorist organizations multiply over the years, the agenda of destroying Israel remains mostly unchanged.

There has been no resolution to the last 40 years of fighting between Israel and the Palestinians, because Israel after 1967 has decided not to return all of its battle-won territories on the West Bank until the Palestinians there accept Israel's right to exist.

Israel has felt that if it gives all the conquered territory back, too many Palestinians will see that not as magnanimity, but as a sign of weakness, and we would be back to square one before 1967: Israel inside its 1948 borders — with yet another new generation of Palestinians promising to finish the job and push the Jews into the sea.

Most everywhere else in the world, wars lead to defeat for one side and victory for the other. The issue, brutally or not, is resolved on the battlefield. Look at the fate of a Saddam Hussein or a Slobodan Milosevic.

But in the Middle East nearly alone, war breaks out and immediately hysteria follows before one side can win and the other lose. "Peace" is imposed, and then we are back to the same old unresolved hatred, terrorism — and the next war.

In such a bleak landscape, what will Barack Obama do?

Probably what Presidents Carter, Reagan, Clinton and the two Bushes tried to do — the same old so-called "land for peace" deal: Israel is supposed to go back to something approaching the pre-1967 borders, and the Palestinians, with their brand-new state, on the West Bank must promise that this time they will really let Israel be.

Good luck.

So, for now we watch for a new "Mitchell Plan," another conference somewhere, more billions in aid, new names for old terrorist organizations, and more pious speechmaking at the U.N. Then soon the next administration will come in to power, with the next peace plan, the next new envoy — and the next new war.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; mitchell; obama; palestinians; vdh; victordavishanson
I guess we will have to settle for 'hope' as there ain't any change.
1 posted on 02/05/2009 9:13:30 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Everyone and everything related to the Liberal God is a national disgrace. Sending an Muslim lover to tell Israel what to do is an insult.


2 posted on 02/05/2009 9:17:35 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: yoe

Why do I suspect that Obama would REALLY like to have Jimmy Carter as his Middle East envoy?

He should do it. Let Carter go over there and expose the libs for what they are.


3 posted on 02/05/2009 9:18:42 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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4 posted on 02/05/2009 9:20:53 AM PST by Tolik
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To: yoe

This is a fools errand, and as such, President Obama will look foolish as a result.

Once you understand this is a war of annihilation, you stop thinking ‘peace in the Middle East’ and back the Israeli’s in this war for their survival.

JMHO.


5 posted on 02/05/2009 9:22:06 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
Once you understand this is a war of annihilation, you stop thinking ‘peace in the Middle East’ and back the Israeli’s in this war for their survival.

Exactly! There is only one way to resolve the problem in the Middle East.

Extinction....

6 posted on 02/05/2009 9:31:31 AM PST by dirtbiker (Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president....)
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To: Badeye
Once you understand this is a war of annihilation, you stop thinking ‘peace in the Middle East’ and back the Israeli’s in this war for their survival.

In this instance, I'm far from certain that liberals and the Obama administration would actually back the Israelis.

7 posted on 02/05/2009 9:31:46 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: dirtbiker

Yep. Sad but thats the only solution.


8 posted on 02/05/2009 9:38:46 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: okie01

‘In this instance, I’m far from certain that liberals and the Obama administration would actually back the Israelis. “

I don’t think they will.


9 posted on 02/05/2009 9:39:27 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
Muslims have been attacking Western Civilization and non-Muslim states for 1400 years, whenever and wherever they have had the resources and opportunity to do so. That is about as close to a historical fact as you can get. Right now Israel is the front line but put your finger on a trouble spot on a world map and the chances are better than 90% that Muslims are involved.
10 posted on 02/05/2009 9:44:25 AM PST by Old North State
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To: Old North State

‘Muslims have been attacking Western Civilization and non-Muslim states for 1400 years, whenever and wherever they have had the resources and opportunity to do so. That is about as close to a historical fact as you can get.’

Yep. The ‘Barbary Pirates’ were all Muslim, and they defended their actions of killing our sailors and enslaving those they allowed to live by the exact same misguided phrases bin Laden uses to justify the 9/11 attacks.

As long as anyone remains alive and refuses to kneel five times per day facing Mecca, they will not stop.


11 posted on 02/05/2009 9:47:07 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: yoe

12 posted on 02/05/2009 9:49:20 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Don't forget to catch Jimmuh in his new show on the Discovery Channel.

“The Peanut Whisperer”

13 posted on 02/05/2009 9:50:00 AM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Boiler Plate
You didn't get the email, it's been renamed more accurately:

The Dictator Whisperer

14 posted on 02/05/2009 9:55:56 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you'd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

15 posted on 02/05/2009 11:15:18 AM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: Darkwolf377

I am going to stick with peanut as
1. It conveys a sense of smallness and insignificance.
2. He and the people he whispers to are nuts.
But hey that’s just me.


16 posted on 02/05/2009 3:04:55 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Darkwolf377

I thought Jimmuh Carter’s show was on MTV...

...you know, that show called ‘Jackass’?


17 posted on 02/05/2009 3:31:11 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

I think that Obama from the Chicago Democratic Corruption Scheme is more likely to back the terrorists. We can not count on them.


18 posted on 02/09/2009 9:22:01 AM PST by tessalu
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