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Call Congress and tell them keep the Buy American Provision in Stimulus package
Vanity | 2-4-09 | nyconse

Posted on 02/05/2009 5:21:01 AM PST by nyconse

I don't like the stimulus and would prefer it not pass...but since the GOP has added their own pork...it's going to pass. Please call Congress and the White House. Tell them if the BUY AMERICAN amendment is stripped...do not vote for the stimulus bill. I would be just as happy if it did not pass, but if tax payer dollars are going to be spent, let's stimulate the American economy and provide jobs for America-not Europe,Japan and particularly not China. Stand up for America.


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KEYWORDS: 111th; activism; buyamerican; government; stimulus; trade
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To: nyconse

The Aussies and Brits stood by our side when we decided to make America safer from terrorist attacks. P on them eh?

Who will stand by America in the future?

One only has to look at the world economy to see that a rising tide floats all boats. The whole world is better off due to free trade and capitalism.

Imagine no free trade and every country being their own little empire in the entire 20th century. The would economy would be 1/10th the size of what it is now. Your wealth would be much much less, you would live in a smaller house. We would all be poorer. Money and wealth are not a zero sum game. New pieces of pie are being created all of the time.

Without trade, you would have to tell the farmers to stop producing, because we could not possibly consume everything they are capable of producing. Burn that wheat, dump that milk - you’ve produced too much! Shame on you!

Why should ANY country let us sell in their markets if you are going to stop them from selling in our market?


121 posted on 02/05/2009 6:39:43 AM PST by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: TalonDJ

I don’t get it—why the sarc tag? You should have printed the statement in bold and left it at that.


122 posted on 02/05/2009 6:39:52 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Stentor

I guess you guys are one worlders...if you think PA or any state is the same as China in terms of trade. Sorry, I believe in sovereign nations...not one world garbage.


123 posted on 02/05/2009 6:39:54 AM PST by nyconse
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To: nyconse
Yes and we all know that cheap foreign labor will always be more productive...thus you are advocating destroying the economy by destroying jobs in this country...which will surely lead to socialism.

Menial labor will always be cheaper in countries with lower costs of living and higher unemployment. American labor needs to be highly skilled in order to compete, with the exception of labor that must be done locally like yard work or production of highly fragile and perishable goods, etc.

It is not competition tht leads to socialism but rather protectionism. It starts with tariffs and subsidies, leads to bailouts, and then ultimately state ownership. When you have politicians, lobbyists, and rich business owners deciding who manufactures what, then that is socialism and that is what you get with protectionism.

124 posted on 02/05/2009 6:40:25 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: Petronski
"I suspect many protectionists secretly have a slothful, sloppy business that cannot compete without the favoritism of Uncle Sugar."

Very astute, I believe the OP's Hubby works for GM...

Mystery solved!

125 posted on 02/05/2009 6:40:28 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: nyconse
GM can’t even sell their products in Korea because of trade barriers...left in place with the new so called free trade agreement which has yet to be signed...the Japanese have VAT tax which they exempt on their own auto’s but not on American autos...

These are two very fine arguments for free trade. Thanks for posting them.

126 posted on 02/05/2009 6:40:29 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: seatrout

History’s a bitch, isn’t it ...


127 posted on 02/05/2009 6:41:10 AM PST by tx_eggman (I own two rare photos. Houdini as he locks his keys in his car and Norman Rockwell beating a child.)
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To: seatrout

Bananas! That money is flowing out of the country! Better be careful. We’ll run out of money! (/sarcasm)


128 posted on 02/05/2009 6:41:21 AM PST by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: listenhillary

Both these countries are moving to protect their markets...they have to, the citizens demand it...England has had strikes all week on this very issue. All countries have some form of protectionism in place...America has almost none in place...we are reaping the free trade debacle now...


129 posted on 02/05/2009 6:41:49 AM PST by nyconse
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To: nyconse

Define “American” for me. Is a Ford made in Mexico an American car, or is a Hyundai made in a southern US state an American car? Better yet, explain why it’s good to have our government telling us what we can and can’t buy. I don’t get it. I don’t get how that’s good. And I live in a GM town, fcol.


130 posted on 02/05/2009 6:42:20 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: seatrout
Jobs are a national resource like energy or topsoil or potable water, and need to be husbanded and protected.

This sounds like 1930's Germany.

131 posted on 02/05/2009 6:42:32 AM PST by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: Petronski

How does this support free trade? They screw this country by refusing to take our products...bankrupting our country and causing our citizens to lose jobs. Your post makes no sense. Only the US allows this sort of irresponsible trading. China has banned Korean cars.


132 posted on 02/05/2009 6:43:37 AM PST by nyconse
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To: Arthur McGowan
So you think Smoot and Hawley, and Hoover, who signed Smoot-Hawley, knew something about economics that WE need to learn, JUST because they were “conservative” “Republicans”?

Coolidge was soooo right about Hoover.

133 posted on 02/05/2009 6:44:03 AM PST by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: nyconse
"GM can’t even sell their products in Korea because of trade barriers..."

OK but again you have a severe disconnect, Korea is not the ones making noise, its the EU and Canada Etc.

When those Markets Close to our Exports how does that help us?

You have not explained this to us.

Please feel free to do so in your next post.

134 posted on 02/05/2009 6:44:41 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: nyconse
Both these countries are moving to protect their markets...they have to, the citizens demand it...

We better hurry and put up our own job-killing boneheaded protectionist barriers, lest we come out on the short end of a job-killing-boneheaded-protectionist-barrier gap!

</StrangeloveLogic>

135 posted on 02/05/2009 6:44:42 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: nyconse
How does this support free trade?

The really sad part is that you actually don't know.

136 posted on 02/05/2009 6:45:33 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Mad Dawgg
If you really want to protect American Jobs tell the Government to repeal the Labor and Safety Rules and Regulations they have heaped on Business these past 60 Years and maybe we can afford to actually run a business in the US for a change.

Hear, hear! And while your at it, you can peel back excessive environmental regulations based on junk science and reign in the excesses of the litigation lottery that plagues our manufacturers (not to mention medical and pharmaceuticals as well) and forces them to seek friendlier places in which to locate their facilities. And perhaps do away with the 'closed shop' form of unionization prevalent in the failing rust belt states.

Fact is, the US has progressively become unfriendly to manufacturing businesses, and as a result, they have left the US in droves.

137 posted on 02/05/2009 6:45:48 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: frithguild; All

It sounds like a pro-American argument to me...free traders just admit you are not Pro-American and leave it at that. Calling a person who wants his country to prosper a Nazis or a communist is just plain wrong...but then free traders have been wrong about everything. All the promises about how this would benefit the country have turned out to be false promises...Opposing so called free trade which is really one sided trade demonstrates common sense and demonstrates love of country.


138 posted on 02/05/2009 6:48:01 AM PST by nyconse
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To: BOBTHENAILER

I debunked the “Smoot-Hawley Myth” yesterday...you were not around

The GDP grew in most years while Smoot-Hawley was in force...contrary to the Free Trader assertions. The GDP is the main statistic used to measure economic growth...and in most years it grew during the Smoot-Hawley era

Also, Smoot-Hawley was passed by conservative Republicans...and ended by FDR at Bretton Woods (the birth of the present Free Trade system)

Also....in the era of Smoot-Hawley....would you prefer we traded with...Nazi Germany? Militaristic Japan? Stalin’s USSR? Those were the only nations producing anything worth of value during the Smoot-Hawley era

It is fortunate we did not trade during the Smoot-Hawley era....or else we would be speaking German, serving the Japanese, or being sent to Stalin’s Gulags. I prefer the protectionism of Smoot-Hawley...and so did my parents and grand-parents


139 posted on 02/05/2009 6:48:02 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Threat To Our Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: meyer

It won’t matter when they can get child labor in China for pennies per hour.


140 posted on 02/05/2009 6:48:44 AM PST by nyconse
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