Posted on 02/04/2009 7:03:19 AM PST by freedom lives
A RESOLUTION affirming States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles.
Whereas the Constitution of the State of New Hampshire, Part 1, Article 7 declares that the people of this State have the sole and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free, sovereign, and independent State; and do, and forever hereafter shall, exercise and enjoy every power, jurisdiction, and right, pertaining thereto, which is not, or may not hereafter be, by them expressly delegated to the United States of America in congress assembled; and
Whereas the Constitution of the State of New Hampshire, Part 2, Article 1 declares that the people inhabiting the territory formerly called the province of New Hampshire, do hereby solemnly and mutually agree with each other, to form themselves into a free, sovereign and independent body-politic, or State, by the name of The State of New Hampshire; and
Whereas the State of New Hampshire when ratifying the Constitution for the United States of America recommended as a change, “First That it be Explicitly declared that all Powers not expressly & particularly Delegated by the aforesaid are reserved to the several States to be, by them Exercised;” and
Whereas the other States that included recommendations, to wit Massachusetts, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island and Virginia, included an identical or similar recommended change; and
Whereas these recommended changes were incorporated as the ninth amendment, the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people, and the tenth amendment, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people, to the Constitution for the United States of America; now, therefore, be it
(Excerpt) Read more at gencourt.state.nh.us ...
What does this have to do with anything, hillbilly?
This is stupid on several levels. I live in New Hampshire and would like to apologize for this post.
I am glad to read your post. As a naturalized citizen, I am amazed and shocked at how Americans don’t seem to treasure the freedoms they have, and the lack of honor they show for the sacrifices that founded this country. Shame on those who besmirch the ideals that gave hope to millions since this country was founded.
Responding to the above, were you not the author of that little gem?
-- signed: Hillbilly
Being from the outside allows you to see what others can’t. Rest assured I am not one of the blind socialists(Hemmingways Goat comes to mind). I think we could be FRiends.
This may come as a shock to you, my southern friend, but the discipline of history extends beyond the mere study of quaint viral emails that have been making their way around the web since Netscape 2.0. It's a nice email nonetheless.But you might want to open a book or two and learn even more.
Recant on this:
Evidently you consider these people deities, and completely forget they were mortal men. They were great men, but largely, they had the same faults as the rest of us; the same passions and the same weaknesses. Altruism is a crock of sh*t; sorry.
Admit this is misleading and quite stupid, and totally unfounded.
Then we can talk about "learning". We learned alot in 1865, how Yankees/socialist/statists can destroy individual states rights. Ya wanna start there? I'll admit it, you all did a "good job" on that, the states are powerless jokes now.
By the way, as much as I seem to detest your cynical yankee attitude you seem a worthy opponent. To bad I have to work for a living, I could spend more time freeping.
Absolutely not. To insist that to a man, each and every Founding Father was inspired to do what they did because of altruism alone is to deify them; to deny that they were human beings, and subject to the same passions, strengths, and weaknesses of all men. It's flat-out childish to insist that altruism alone motivated the Founding Fathers. It's really a naive view of history, my friend; only Christ was infallible. The Founding Fathers were not Christ; in fact, they'd probably be offended to be compared to Christ, especially the Puritans among them (like the Adamses).
Then we can talk about "learning". We learned alot in 1865, how Yankees/socialist/statists can destroy individual states rights. Ya wanna start there? I'll admit it, you all did a "good job" on that, the states are powerless jokes now.
I have no desire to refight the Civil War with you, Johnny Reb. My family didn't come to this country until the 20th century.
By the way, as much as I seem to detest your cynical yankee attitude you seem a worthy opponent. To bad I have to work for a living, I could spend more time freeping.
Some of us are capable of multitasking . . .
But in case you didn't notice, NONE of which actually spoke to their motives in founding this nation. Your best effort was a feeble shot at character assasination. tsk,tsk You know, you really need to stop working off the top of your head. It's a infertile field that apparently is yielding no fruit. Maybe a little cultivating would help.
Evidently you consider these people deities, and completely forget they were mortal men.
Reminds me of a keeper by Mark Twain: There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. In case you have difficulty making the connection, you made a claim, not based on a trifling bit of fact, but based on no facts whatsoever.
Just a brief refresher, here's what I said: Sounds pretty cynical to me but, what was "in it" for our Founders? Are you cynical enough to believe our Founders for the most part had anything other than honorable motives. That doesn't read like I have any illusions that our Founders were anything but ordinary men that accomplished something extraordinary. Your mileage may vary, however...
Altruism is a crock of sh*t; sorry.
Wow! Very profound... Your truly are a cynical SOB aren't you?
Most excellent narrative. These men of course weren’t gods, a belief that some here seem to project on us, but heaven may have been a local call for a lot of ‘em. Near as I can determine, most were Godly men. In fact, our founding documents say as much.
Sounds like you have it all figured out; why don't you share with the group?
I live in New Hampshire and would like to apologize for this post.
"Live Free of Die" rings hollow to you, eh?
I’m not sure the Alamo can be avoided — unless you’re just saying you’re looking to find a way to concentrate our strength. I don’t want Alamo results, but I’m not prepared to predict that there will not be blood. Not that I’m advocating violence, mind you. ;)
It is wise to not advocate violence on public internet forums.
Exactly. That is why I would NEVER advocate violence on a public forum.
Hours? Try moments. And that's all it took for me to refute your ridiculous notion; a notion that only a junior high school student would have the temerity to assert. Clearly you rank among the most simple of thinkers.
Clearly you don't have the mental capacity to understand realpolitik, and prefer to remain bogged in some parallel, theoretical universe where only selfless people---famously selfless people at that---engage in the dog-eat-dog business of politics. Hence, you couldn't even begin to understand the complex stew of politics that was brewing in Boston in the mid 18th century . . . where the American Revolution began. Have you considered that notion at all? Have you considered, for example, why the Boston Massacre didn't ignite the Revolution, like Adams (Sam) thought it would? Or the Gaspee affair? Or the Portsmouth Alarm? Or the Powderhouse Alarm? Or the Salem Alarm? Why wasn't it until Lexington and Concord---a full five years after the Boston Massacre---that the Revolution ignited?
If warmed-over platitudes passed around in viral email passes for historical scholarship on Free Republic these days---and you're content with that---clearly this site is going to the dogs. Go ahead and wallow in your idiocracy---you're exactly the type of fool Mike Judge envisioned when he created the movie.
On second thought, save yourself more countless hours of mud wrestling and forget about it. All I'll get from you are some veiled references to "That's just the way things were back then, trust me". I don' think so. You made the assertion that our Founders were dirtbags and you don't have a shred of material to back it up. Admit it.
“Sounds like you have it all figured out; why don’t you share with the group?”
First, the person who posted it doesn’t seem to know the English language.
Second, if it ever came to a vote in New Hampshire, you wouldn’t get even 10% of the population to support it.
“Live Free of Die” rings hollow to you, eh?
Let’s see... Carol Che Porter, Paul Hodes, John Lynch, Jeanne Shaheen, Democrat NH House, Democrat NH Senate...
Even Sancho Panza know a lost cause.
Which begs the question, what's this all about? Is it akin to saber rattling? From what I have come to learn about your otherwise beautiful state, it seems a little out of character for them. So, whatsupwithat?
I'd sooner expect something like this from my home state given the "Six Flags" image and all we have cultivated and nurtured down here, whether we have actually earned it or not. Regardless, I'm more or less cheering from the sidelines for the message it sends to DC, the source notwithstanding.
It sends no message to DC whatsoever. They won’t even notice.
If your aren’t aware, this resolution has NOT passed the NH House. It has simply been introduced by 4 of our almost 400 House members.
It will not go any farther. No committee will consider it.
We have a very large House of Representatives with severe extremes on both sides. If there are only four sponsors, that’s all there will ever be.
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