But in case you didn't notice, NONE of which actually spoke to their motives in founding this nation. Your best effort was a feeble shot at character assasination. tsk,tsk You know, you really need to stop working off the top of your head. It's a infertile field that apparently is yielding no fruit. Maybe a little cultivating would help.
Evidently you consider these people deities, and completely forget they were mortal men.
Reminds me of a keeper by Mark Twain: There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. In case you have difficulty making the connection, you made a claim, not based on a trifling bit of fact, but based on no facts whatsoever.
Just a brief refresher, here's what I said: Sounds pretty cynical to me but, what was "in it" for our Founders? Are you cynical enough to believe our Founders for the most part had anything other than honorable motives. That doesn't read like I have any illusions that our Founders were anything but ordinary men that accomplished something extraordinary. Your mileage may vary, however...
Altruism is a crock of sh*t; sorry.
Wow! Very profound... Your truly are a cynical SOB aren't you?
Hours? Try moments. And that's all it took for me to refute your ridiculous notion; a notion that only a junior high school student would have the temerity to assert. Clearly you rank among the most simple of thinkers.
Clearly you don't have the mental capacity to understand realpolitik, and prefer to remain bogged in some parallel, theoretical universe where only selfless people---famously selfless people at that---engage in the dog-eat-dog business of politics. Hence, you couldn't even begin to understand the complex stew of politics that was brewing in Boston in the mid 18th century . . . where the American Revolution began. Have you considered that notion at all? Have you considered, for example, why the Boston Massacre didn't ignite the Revolution, like Adams (Sam) thought it would? Or the Gaspee affair? Or the Portsmouth Alarm? Or the Powderhouse Alarm? Or the Salem Alarm? Why wasn't it until Lexington and Concord---a full five years after the Boston Massacre---that the Revolution ignited?
If warmed-over platitudes passed around in viral email passes for historical scholarship on Free Republic these days---and you're content with that---clearly this site is going to the dogs. Go ahead and wallow in your idiocracy---you're exactly the type of fool Mike Judge envisioned when he created the movie.