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Judge Jones gets multiple honorary degrees, Ben Stein has his withdrawn
UncommonDescent ^ | February 3, 2009 | William Dembski

Posted on 02/03/2009 5:36:29 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

3 February 2009

Judge Jones gets multiple honorary degrees, Ben Stein has his withdrawn

William Dembski

Judge Jones, whose distinction prior to the Dover case was running the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board, now has multiple honorary doctorates for rendering his decision, which he cribbed from the ACLU’s Proposed Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law. Ben Stein, who is an acclaimed actor, author, and economist, on the other hand, has just been denied an honorary doctorate at the University of Vermont:

“This is not, to my mind, an issue about academic freedom or the openness of the campus to all points of view. Ben Stein spoke here last spring to great acclaim,” UVM President Dan Fogel said. “It’s an issue about the appropriateness of awarding an honorary degree to someone whose views in many ways ignore or affront the fundamental values of scientific inquiry and I greatly regret that I was not attuned to those issues.” (full story click here)

That’s right, for questioning Darwin and pointing out the racist implications of his theory (implications that Darwin himself drew in his DESCENT OF MAN), Ben Stein is now an affront to science.

Perhaps one beneficial consequence of the current recession/depression is that tax-payers will pay more attention to how their tax dollars are being misused by schools like UVM. But that may be too much to hope.

We’ll know that the tide has turned when Judge Jones’s Dover decision and Darwin’s inflated claims about the power of natural selection are themselves seen as an affront to science.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: benstein; cretion; danfogel; dover; evolution; intelligentdesign; judgejones; universityofvermont; uvm
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1 posted on 02/03/2009 5:36:29 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: gondramB; editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; ...

ping!


2 posted on 02/03/2009 5:37:10 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
UVM President Dan Fogel

All part of the (intelligently designed?) plan?

3 posted on 02/03/2009 5:39:46 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

I would say that it is all part of an anti-intellectual crusade on the part of the Temple of Darwin.


4 posted on 02/03/2009 5:43:47 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Who woulda thunk it.  Vermont has a university?  I would suppose its most popular courses are migration (out) studies for the locals and migration (in) studies for New York’s red diaper babies and sewer scum.


5 posted on 02/03/2009 5:47:01 PM PST by Melchior
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To: GodGunsGuts

Who woulda thunk it.  Vermont has a university?  I would suppose its most popular courses are migration (out) studies for the locals and migration (in) studies for New York’s red diaper babies and sewer scum.


6 posted on 02/03/2009 5:47:21 PM PST by Melchior
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To: GodGunsGuts

Couldn’t care less.

Stein donated to Franken’s senate campaign.


7 posted on 02/03/2009 5:47:22 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR......Monthly Donors Wanted)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Expelled again...


8 posted on 02/03/2009 5:47:32 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: GodGunsGuts

Stein’s movie Expelled is very successful in illustrating the foolishness and hypocrisy of elitist academics and liberals.

I’m going to buy several copies of it and have them sent to elitist liberals among my friends and family.


9 posted on 02/03/2009 5:48:25 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: GodGunsGuts

When you consider “gay-rights”, abortion-rights, endangered species protection, etc. There is no group of people that is more anti-Darwinian than liberals.


10 posted on 02/03/2009 5:49:46 PM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
all part of an anti-intellectual crusade

Good point.

ignore or affront the fundamental values of scientific inquiry

Ben Stein is about as likely to ignore those values as Obama is to prefer McDonald's over wagyu beef (whatever that is).

I'm not sure what constitutes an "affront" to values, but Stein called some conventions and practices into question. Big deal.

11 posted on 02/03/2009 5:51:37 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

He did?!?! What the heck did he go and do that for?


12 posted on 02/03/2009 5:53:59 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

He felt that he should, being as how they have been friends for so many years.....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303383,00.html


13 posted on 02/03/2009 5:56:50 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR......Monthly Donors Wanted)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Let’s see, the long-time jurist who made the obviously correct decision in a court case got an honorary doctorate, and the guy who lied and misrepresented all through a movie didn’t. No surprise here.

Sad, because I otherwise generally liked Ben Stein.


14 posted on 02/03/2009 5:59:47 PM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I would be very surprised if any state or private secular university would award an honorary degree to a champion of creationism or ID. A fundamentalist school might well do it, and I certainly think that those who appreciate Mr. Stein’s efforts should lobby such a school to honor him.


15 posted on 02/03/2009 6:05:18 PM PST by Mogwai ("Let them eat arugula!" - Obamarie Antoinette)
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To: Mogwai

The problem is not simple: many people don’t understand that ID is entirely different from creationism.


16 posted on 02/03/2009 6:09:37 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: antiRepublicrat

It appears your use of the term “lied” is erroneous.


17 posted on 02/03/2009 6:10:58 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: reasonisfaith

remember, worshippers at the altar of darwin consider all those ‘outside the faith’, thus you can erroneously question their motives, intellect and general intelligence...

it’s an old trick, but a goody....


18 posted on 02/03/2009 6:22:19 PM PST by raygunfan
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To: reasonisfaith

A misrepresentation is just a form of lying.


19 posted on 02/03/2009 6:45:10 PM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
"Stein donated to Franken’s senate campaign".

Can you substantiate that charge? Or are you just blowing smoke out your a$$?

20 posted on 02/03/2009 7:03:38 PM PST by neocon1984
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