Posted on 02/02/2009 3:26:58 PM PST by DeepThought42
To boost morale and reenlistment rates, the Navy and a private development firm have opened the first phase of Pacific Beacon, a $322-million high-rise housing project at Naval Base San Diego.
Four 18-story towers now surround a quad on what was once the base's par-3 golf course. At full occupancy, the towers will accommodate 1,882 unmarried sailors in 941 apartments.
The Navy has signed private-public agreements for similar housing projects in Norfolk, Va., and Jacksonville, Fla. The other services have sent top officers to study the arrangement.
"What's not to love?" said Capt. Ricky Williamson, the base commander. "I'd live here in a heartbeat."
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Couldn’t even begin to desribe the dwellings I had in ‘68....I sure hope they’re better now....
Public private partnership is another name for fascism. It sets up unconstitutional relationships between businesses and the government. It gives the business too much power in the government, as the business becomes a ‘partner’ and indivdiual citizens lose their authority. In public private partnerships, the government now has a vested interest in seeing one business , their partner, succeed over all other, violating equal justice directives of Constitutional law.
Public private partnerships were begun in socialist europe and brought here by globalists who saw that 1. it would give foreign corporations unfettered access to politicians in domestic affairs, 2. it guarantees income to them based on US taxpayer dollars, which is a crime against the founding of this country and the purpose as stated by our founders, of the government.
Thank you LA Times for the best laughing fit I've had since the mid-90's.
As a Marine during the Reagan years, I loved living 4 to a room at NAS Oceana while in Avionics Screwl while attached to the Green Knights. Down below, on the first deck, were a few Air Force fellas who manned the nearby Continental radar station for NORAD. Those AF guys not only had “private” rooms, but cable TV and maid service. Talk about swank. At least the sailors I roomed with knew how to make a rake, knew how to polish the deck, and we never failed a weekly inspection. I don’t even think the air force guys got inspected. That zoomie posting must have been plumb for those guys.... all those extras for living with us squids and jarheads. Oh well. At least the mid-rats were good.
The best laugh I’ve had in months. I’ve always felt that your statement is 100% spot on. On board ship, our living conditions violated the ‘civil rights’ of the most evil criminal. Privacy wasn’t even a word in the dictionary. The Fire Control guys converted a STORAGE SPACE into a bunk room for 8 sailors. They called it the BOUDOIR. I slept on the bench in the shop I ran. It was only 12’ long, so I had to kick out a 6’ tall kid because I was 6’5”, and I had enough rank not to be willing to play footsie all night. Oh, the joys of showering with 35 guys and no solitude for **********.
Oh, what people don’t know. Wonder how we survived
I went TDY to Camp Pendleton for a few weeks while stationed in San Diego. They put me up in the barracks with some of Marines coming through. They were complaining about the sparseness of the 2-man rooms, while I was amazed how much room there was after living onboard ship for the last several years. Unmarried sailors always could count on the crap assignments, being the ones called on when last-minute things came up, and getting the raw end of pretty much any deal.
Did you alight on the wrong thread? There is nothing fascist about the DoD contracting out management of military housing.
Maybe invite the new occupant of the WH out for a few nights stay in military quarters....
Is this the old NTC site?
I spent two years, three months and fifteen days on the USS Princeton as a young Marine. Even though we had half a crew - 1100 vs 2400 - there was no extra space. Every inch was converted to squadron and grunt quarters. We had four high bunks, 50 to one compartment.
It got worse! We had to spend six months in drydock for a FRAM modernization and had to move to a barracks ship. We were as snug as elephants in a wall locker.
We I left and was transferred to MCAS Beaufort, I thought I was in heaven. Four men to a cubicle and privacy to boot.
These men deserve all the comforts we can give them.
Semper fi.
Seeing as we’re bringing up the old living arrangements, back in ‘68 I was stationed at Rota, Spain. E-4 and lower got to live 6 guys to a ‘cube’, which was just a locker arrangement. That made about 120 sailors in what amounted to open bay barracks. Plus open showers, etc. E5 and E6 got four guys to a real room. Palatial!!
No I didn’t alight on the wrong thread.
Public private partnerships erode individual rights and corrupts equal justice rules by the government.
I wholeheartedly support the Navy, but no American should sit by why this wholesale corruption of the government and corrupt favoritism to certain businesses takes place.
If you oppose the nationalization of industry, then you should oppose this variant called public private partnerships.
Why are Americans so eager to give up their responsibility for preserving individual rights and limited government by their tacit acceptance of what has been called soft fascism? Maybe you can answer that question for me.
Here’s another one for you. Can’t the Navy get housing for its sailors in a constitutional way? If not, why not?
The Navy doesn’t have a Condo Bureau or Office of Strategic Property Management? Just a guess. The Navy should stick to its core competencies and contract civilians for projects like the one in San Diego.
Goldsborough:
Lighten up it called sarcasm and FR is often dripping with it, the Nav started letting E-5’s get VHA not long after I got out, ‘96. The only reason we played the little course was to drink beer while hacking away. Serious golfers would go over to Coronado and place on a real course.
I never did, that much brass in one place makes me,...... let's just say I'd rather be elsewhere.
old NTC site
No
This is the base where the 3rd Fleet is headquartered in San Diego.
There are several major Naval Bases in San Diego as well at the Major Marine Bases.
A contract is not the same as a public private partnership. The Navy can contract for its needs. It doesn’t need to contribute to the widespread soft fascism brought into this country during the Clinton years.
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