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To: Polarik; mlo; ponygirl; hoosiermama
Actually, what I acknowledge are the following:

Polarik, why throw down the gauntlet?

Most pros would have the grace to acknowledge (as I believe you have) that there is (my words here) an indication of a seal on the dailyKOS image (2427x2369, 520 kb version). Anyone here can look at that image (100% magnification) and find it, now that they know where to look. Why not just say so? Why leave your supporters and detractors something to be divided on?

I completely understand putting a lot of work into a project, and then not wanting to entertain requests afterward. I myself am very much a "here it is, take it or leave it" kind of person. If I release something free to the world, I don't want people coming back with their personal wish lists or special requests on how that release could be better tailored to their needs.

I understand you did your work on your own time. Nobody would expect journal-publication quality word-crafting for a project like you undertook. Nobody would expect an error-free analysis. That said, your report has a number of rough spots. Some of that may just be omission of explanation... but how does one distinguish such omissions from errors in reason?

You collected a lot of ground-truth information on actual physical documents, and made us aware of seal changes and things like that. I suspect that that will be the biggest contribution, in the end, rather than any specific claims of image manipulation, but who knows.

On the other hand... I have always prided myself as a dragon slayer. And your points (3) and (4) were hotly spoken. I am really NOT interested in diving into the COLB verification business. I would like nothing more than to turn my attention to other matters. I also believe that there is little more to be gained from the digital image authenticity argument, beyond what has been done, except to keep embarrassments to a minimum. But, all said and done, I think that I would be hesitant to call as a witness someone who talks as hotly as you write.

Sorry all. I'm just trying to figure out what is what, and where those whats stand.

69 posted on 01/31/2009 7:47:14 PM PST by BrerLion (the alarmists are coming! the alarmists are coming!)
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To: BrerLion; LucyT
And your points (3) and (4) were hotly spoken...I would be hesitant to call as a witness someone who talks as hotly as you write.

And what you wrote leaves me cold..so I guess I'm back to normal.

77 posted on 01/31/2009 9:03:57 PM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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78 posted on 01/31/2009 9:32:38 PM PST by BrerLion (the alarmists are coming! the alarmists are coming!)
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