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Free Solar Power Is Hoax
The Albuquerque Journal ^
| January 15, 2009
| James P. O'Loughlin, Placitas Engineer
Posted on 01/17/2009 5:05:53 PM PST by CedarDave
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I won't try to defend or challenge his numbers; others can do so if so inclined. The point of the article is that solar energy is not "free" nor competitive with conventional power. The downside of both solar and wind is that the sun doesn't shine all the time nor the wind blow. Infrastructure to get electricity from solar/wind farms has to be built and the local nimby's come out to oppose either the generation or transmission facilities. Now solar may make sense for very rural areas "off the grid" but not for large urban areas.
Solar power, like wind energy and ethanol production, is a hoax that will not resolve our long term energy needs. It could be hoped that reality would take hold but, like the global warming hoax, the masses are being educated to believe that use of fossil fuels will be our demise when in fact it will be reliance on the sun and windmills tilting in the breeze that will do us in.
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:05:54 PM PST
by
CedarDave
To: LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...
PING to the NM list!
(FReepmail greyfoxx39 to be added or removed from the list)
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:07:36 PM PST
by
CedarDave
(Under Obama, yesterday's pork-laden earmarks have become tomorrow's economic stimulus projects)
To: CedarDave
Hi, Dave. Please add me to your Ping List. Thanks.
As an aside...I’ve been using FREE solar and wind power for decades now to dry my clothes. Where’s my Goverment Subsidies? ;)
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:13:52 PM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Ive been using FREE solar and wind power for decades now to dry my clothes. But that simple technology doesn't give politicians a pretense to funnel billions of dollars to their financial contributors.
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:19:15 PM PST
by
Iron Munro
(Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself)
To: Diana in Wisconsin; greyfoxx39
Greyfoxx39 is the keeper of the NM Ping list. FReepmail her, please.
With the temperature the way it is in Wisconsin, I suspect its a chore just to fold clothes frozen on the line!
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:20:33 PM PST
by
CedarDave
(Under Obama, yesterday's pork-laden earmarks have become tomorrow's economic stimulus projects)
To: CedarDave
then again we know its more expensive and less reliable, thats why its ‘alternative’
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:22:23 PM PST
by
GeronL
(A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
To: CedarDave
Well, I did slack off some this winter. I just hung them on the basement line. I can’t even GET to my clothes line. I’m 5’1” and there’s a 10’ wall-o-snow between me and it. :)
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:28:46 PM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Iron Munro
You’re right. Don’t tell soon-to-be VP Biden on me. He’ll call me “Un-American” or something... ;)
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:30:21 PM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
I have added you to the NM ping list Diana...welcome.
GF
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:30:48 PM PST
by
greyfoxx39
(The "new" Camelot?? Jackie "O" is spinning in her grave....)
To: CedarDave
This does not reduce the actual cost; it just transfers it to the general taxpayer or ratepayer. That is why they call it a public utility, as is all electric power. Some people just cannot understand that all electrical power has been subsidized.
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:31:42 PM PST
by
org.whodat
(Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
To: greyfoxx39
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:32:08 PM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: CedarDave
I think that those of us that are investing in wind and solar are preparing for a breakdown of the grid. We’re either right or wrong...we’ll see.
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:34:44 PM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: gorush
I’m all for alternatives as long as its your choice, more power to you.
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:42:16 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
To: org.whodat
Which assures higher prices. We need to stop subsidizing it and allow real competition. But then again we’d have to let them burn coal or nuclear and leftists won’t like that.
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:50:20 PM PST
by
GeronL
(A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
To: gorush
one reason I am glad to be in East Texas - our grid is rather well provided for and we have local sources for coal to power the plants.
Now if it gets really bad that might not help much.
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:50:41 PM PST
by
DevNet
(What's past is prologue)
To: CedarDave
CD, I spent 2 years going to school in Santa Fe and would love to be added to your New Mexico ping list.
Regards,
Recon Dad
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:57:51 PM PST
by
Recon Dad
(Marsoc Dad)
To: GeronL
But then again wed have to let them burn coal or nuclear and leftists wont like that. Did you fall out of a tree?? Do you have any ideal what it would cost the private sector to build nuclear power plants. You could not sell the power for enough money to cover 10% of the cost of the liability insurance.
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posted on
01/17/2009 5:57:58 PM PST
by
org.whodat
(Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Just wait until the gubmint sends out their operative to count the # of items on your line and tax you accordingly.
To: cripplecreek
![Photobucket](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/gorush/104-0402_IMG.jpg)
Earth sheltered, geo-thermaly heated/cooled ICF constructed Home and Shop.
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posted on
01/17/2009 6:08:18 PM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: gorush
My neighbor uses geothermal.
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posted on
01/17/2009 6:09:55 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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