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Bill would pull plug on reloading
The Standard Journal (Milton, PA) ^ | January 14, 2009 | Coni Marie Sheridan

Posted on 01/15/2009 6:56:58 PM PST by neverdem

Reloading ammunition in Pennsylvania may become a thing of the past if a bill currently in state legislature is passed.

According to the National Rifle Association-Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA), “in the last year, so-called “encoded” or “serialized” ammunition bills have been introduced in 13 states — Arizona, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee and Washington.”

The bills, if passed, would require all bullets and cartridge cases to be marked with a code and registered to the owners in a computerized database, therefore, reloading would be outlawed.

“It (the bill) would eliminate reloading because there would be no way to serial it (the ammunition),” Rollin Anderson of Anderson’s Gun Shop in Watsontown said. “A lot of guys that handload (reload) are not happy about it.”

Anderson sells a lot of materials for ammunition reloading or handloading, which is when you reuse the cartridges to make your own ammunition.

“It would hurt a lot of industries,” he explained. There are so many components involved with reloading that would no longer be needed if the bill is passed, he said.

“Reloading is cost effective and is more accurate,” he added. “It (the bullet) holds a better pattern.”

Ammunition you already own could also be at risk as many of the bills state that people would be required to forfeit all personally owned “non-encoded” ammunition after a certain date. Therefore, reloading would actually be deemed illegal.

“I think it’s ridiculous!” commented State Rep. Merle Phillips. “They’d take away reloading which a lot of gun owners do to save money. It makes no sense.”

Along with encoding and registering ammunition, there would also be a five cent tax on each bullet sold, therefore, a minimum $2.50 increase per box would be enforced.

“People would still buy the loaded ammo, but it’s a lot more expensive (than reloading),” Anderson said.

According to the Ammunition Accountability Web site, the legislation was prompted by a “newly forming group” that includes “gun crime victims, industry representatives, law enforcement, public officials, public policy experts and more.”

However, Angus McClellan of the NRA-ILA Grassroots said, “this is a proposal by a commercial enterprise that has a patent on technology to imprint the codes. They are trying to create a demand for their product by making it mandatory. The owner of the company admitted on NRA News that his lobbying firm put up the whole thing.”

Sample legislation obtained from the Ammunition Accountability Web site states, “Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons on interest in gun crime investigations.”

State Rep. Merle Phillips disagrees.

“Criminals can still steal guns and ammunition,” he said.

Trooper Matt Burrows of the state police agrees with Phillips and said, “It (the encoding) would help, but I don’t know to what degree or how it would be implemented.”

According to McClellan, the NRA-ILA has been successfully fighting the passage of this legislation so far.

He said, “These bills are pending and will likely die at the end of the sessions, however, they will likely be reintroduced next session and sessions thereafter and will certainly pose significant threats.”

For more information on the Ammunition Accountability Act, visit www.ammunitionaccountability.com. You can also visit www.nraila.org for additional information and to find out what you can do to prevent this bill from being passed.

Coni Marie Sheridan:

570-742-9671

coni@standard-journal.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: ammocoding; banglist; nra; reloading
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1 posted on 01/15/2009 6:56:59 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Professional Engineer

ping


2 posted on 01/15/2009 7:00:00 PM PST by Peanut Gallery ("...evolution doesn't fully explain the mystery of life" ~ George W. Bush)
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To: neverdem

This sucks. I have lots of primers, brass, powder, and just invested in casting tools and now these commie bas666s want me to have to serial number each one or turn them in.

I’ll give them back one at a time.


3 posted on 01/15/2009 7:00:55 PM PST by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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To: neverdem

Re: there would also be a five cent tax on each bullet sold

We really need to look at imposing a 5 cent tax on each paragraph written. See how that idea flies.


4 posted on 01/15/2009 7:01:17 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: neverdem
Zero chance this passes in PA.

Maybe less.

5 posted on 01/15/2009 7:02:01 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Ramcat

Hope you are right.


6 posted on 01/15/2009 7:02:28 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: neverdem

I heard rumor of this, this week, and I’m gonna call BS.
I just cant see it happening.


7 posted on 01/15/2009 7:04:48 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could be Farts)
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To: neverdem

I hate these commie bastards. They never, ever give up. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. They’ll take my freedom only from my cold dead hands. What a sorry mess our country has become. Ruined by socialists already, what happens when a marxist usurper is president? All hell’s gonna break loose.


8 posted on 01/15/2009 7:05:00 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: neverdem
another one to watch: H.B. 1022‏ The amendment, ratified in 1791, says: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." HB 1022 by Carolyn McCathy (D) NY and 67 other Democrats. And Korwin said the plan would allow the U.S. Attorney General – possibly Holder – to add to the list of guns banned to the public any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." "In plain English," Korwin said, "This means that any firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public. That presumption can be challenged only by suing the federal government over each firearm it decides to ban, in a court it runs with a judge it pays. This virtually dismisses the principles of the Second Amendment. "The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose – is that devious or what? And of course, 'sporting purpose' is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent," "A former Ohio secretary of state, (Ken) Blackwell notes that, 'despite Obama's new lip service to the Second Amendment, Holder signed onto a brief earlier this year (2008) reaffirming his long-held position that the Second Amendment confers no rights whatsoever to private citizens, and that the Supreme Court should have upheld D.C.'s absolute ban on handguns, even in homes." America's 85 million gun owners have ample reason to be pessimistic about how their civil rights will fare under the Obama administration," Gottlieb said. "Mr. Obama will have a Congress with an anti-gun Democrat majority leadership to push his gun control agenda. Gun owners have not forgotten Mr. Obama's acknowledged opposition to concealed carry rights, nor his support for a ban on handgun ownership when he was running for the Illinois state senate."
9 posted on 01/15/2009 7:05:33 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: neverdem
“forfeit all personally owned “non-encoded” ammunition “

I'll forfeit my “non-encoded” ammunition to them utilizing my nifty ammunition-forfeiting devices manufactured by Glock and Bushmaster.... one bullet at a time.

10 posted on 01/15/2009 7:06:07 PM PST by Kennesaw
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To: neverdem

The guy with the company that is pulling this stunt should be hammered with complaints from law abiding gun owners.


11 posted on 01/15/2009 7:06:18 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: neverdem

answers that question. home made bullets would also be outlawed i guess


12 posted on 01/15/2009 7:06:30 PM PST by GeronL (A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
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To: mylife

As I tell my favorite liberal relative,

I’m not at all impressed with “it can’t happen”.

I’m WAY more concerned with the fact and implications that there are those in power that WANT it to happen.


13 posted on 01/15/2009 7:07:05 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: neverdem

It is a basic principle of a tyrant to unarm his people of weapons, money and all means whereby they resist his power. Sir Walter Raleigh

Americans need never fear their government because of the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation. James Madison

To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them. George Mason

Whenever . . . the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. St. George Tucker


14 posted on 01/15/2009 7:07:28 PM PST by QBFimi2 (Ve are the New World Order; ve bring to the world dis-order. Spike Jones, 1943.)
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To: neverdem

I absolutely refuse to obey this “law”


15 posted on 01/15/2009 7:08:07 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: mylife
I just cant see it happening.

I just couldn't see America electing a marxist, either.

16 posted on 01/15/2009 7:08:25 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Hey Obama, why lawyer up when you can pony up? Show us your vault copy BC)
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To: Calpernia

I had paragraphs. Apparently HB 1022 must have banned them too.


17 posted on 01/15/2009 7:08:52 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: MrB

The fact that their are those in power who want it to happen is exactly why the founding Fathers penned the 2nd


18 posted on 01/15/2009 7:09:36 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could be Farts)
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To: neverdem
Trooper Matt Burrows of the state police agrees with Phillips and said, “It (the encoding) would help, but I don’t know to what degree or how it would be implemented.”

Duh...yeah, it would help. DUH, I don't know how...but...it would help.

19 posted on 01/15/2009 7:11:56 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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To: headstamp 2

You have a point. Buy the company and the patents. Refuse to license the technology.


20 posted on 01/15/2009 7:12:53 PM PST by meatloaf
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