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Robbery suspect shot and killed by intended victim
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | January 15, 2009 | MIKE MORRIS

Posted on 01/15/2009 4:35:41 AM PST by Kennesaw

A robbery suspect was shot six times and killed by his intended victim outside an East Atlanta Village bar Wednesday night, police said.

The incident occurred shortly before midnight in the 1200 block of Glenwood Avenue in southeast Atlanta, about two miles from the scene of last week’s high-profile killing of a bar worker near Grant Park.

In the Wednesday incident, a man and woman had just left the Graveyard Tavern and were sitting inside their car waiting for the vehicle to warm up when a man approached with a gun and demanded money, Atlanta police Sgt. Lisa Keyes told WAGA-TV.

“At that time, the male inside the vehicle pulled his own weapon and shot [the] suspect six times,” Keyes said. The unidentified suspect died at the scene.

Police were treating it as a case of self-defense.

Last week, Grant Park bartender John Henderson was shot and killed during an armed robbery at Standard Food & Spirits on Memorial Drive. His death prompted area residents to voice concern about rising crime.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; atlanta; banglist; crime; gaarmedcitizen; gun
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To: Kennesaw
His death prompted area residents to voice concern about rising crime

and undoubtedly prompted at least some residents to start carrying guns.

42 posted on 01/15/2009 10:19:43 AM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: trebb
that if someone is being bad enough to rate shooting, they rate meeting their Maker for judgment.

and it removes some lawyers from one's future that, any more in most states, won't likely win anything but they can still make life uncomfortable as they pursue the judicial lottery.

43 posted on 01/15/2009 10:22:48 AM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: Dixie Yooper
I wonder if all the patrons of the Graveyard Tavern pack heat?

They might now.

44 posted on 01/15/2009 10:23:47 AM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: AnAmericanMother
I would like to hear somebody quoted in the news, "He was a bad, no-count boy, and he got what was coming to him."< P> I am sure that quotes like that are plentiful but they do not suit reporters and editors unless they personally knew the perp and then they would not print their own observations.
45 posted on 01/15/2009 10:29:12 AM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Ping bumps


6 & out ... doesn't get any better than that.

46 posted on 01/15/2009 10:31:11 AM PST by G.Mason (If you surrender your right to own a gun, you surrender your right to your life)
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To: Kennesaw

“He just got the jump on him,” Willis said of the victim. “He told me he fired until the guy was no longer a threat to him.”

Bravo! That is the way it is taught.

One of your more well-written pieces for this type of thing.


48 posted on 01/15/2009 11:23:41 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: FrPR
All these posts and not one FReeper commented on how seriously the couple’s ears would be ringing after six shots inside a closed automobile... Ouch!

Perhaps because the victim was outside the truck.

49 posted on 01/15/2009 11:27:13 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: Kennesaw

Updated Article:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2009/01/15/east_atlanta_shooting.html

Updated: 12:11 p.m. January 15, 2009

Robbery suspect shot, killed in East Atlanta
Potential victim ‘got the jump on him,’ fires 5 or 6 times
By MIKE MORRIS, TIM EBERLY

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Thursday, January 15, 2009

A robbery suspect was shot and killed by his intended victim outside an East Atlanta Village bar late Wednesday, Atlanta police said Thursday.

Police do not believe the shooting has any connection to the recent high-profile killing at a Grant Park bar.

The suspected robber, a 29-year-old man from the Decatur area, carried a Colt .40-caliber handgun, while the gun that killed bar worker John Henderson was a 9mm, Atlanta police Detective Michael Willis said.

The killing Wednesday comes a week after Henderson’s killing in another popular hangout about two miles away, Standard Food & Spirits, sparked an outpouring of community support and galvanized grassroots efforts to improve public safety by some who say the city is becoming more dangerous.

Willis said he could not release the identity of the dead man Thursday morning because he had not yet notified relatives of his death.

The detective also declined to name the man and woman police said were the intended robbery victims. The man who opened fire in self defense is a 28-year-old who works in the airline industry and lives in a northern suburb of Atlanta, possibly Cobb County, Willis said.

The woman he was with — they have been dating for a couple of months — is around 40 years old and lives in the Marietta area, Willis said.

Wednesday night, the couple made their way to the popular East Atlanta Village, known for its trendy bars and eateries, because they have been taking swing-dancing lessons, Willis said.

Their dancing instructor told them that one of the East Atlanta bars, Graveyard Tavern, had “big band nights,” Willis said.

“So they came down here to dance,” Willis said.

When they left the bar around 11:15 p.m., the man gave his date the keys to his Ford Ranger pickup truck so she could drive. They walked to the truck, parked in an Ace Hardware lot across a side street on the same side of Glenwood Avenue.

Inside the vehicle, the woman was adjusting the driver’s seat and mirrors when the man looked over his shoulder and saw a man standing at his passenger window, Willis said.

Believing the man was going to beg for money, the passenger rolled down his window a few inches, Willis said. But he had a strange feeling about the man, so he grabbed his gun from the glove box and put it on his lap, Willis said.

He asked the stranger what he wanted, and noticed the man was reaching for his waistband or pockets, the detective said. Instinctively, the passenger shoved open his door, knocking the suspected robber back a few feet, Willis said. The woman started screaming.

The man got out of the truck and the suspected robber raised a weapon at him, Willis said. “When he saw that, he just started shooting,” the detective said.

The man shot the suspected robber five or six times, in the stomach and chest, Willis said. The robber did not fire any shots.

“He just got the jump on him,” Willis said of the victim. “He told me he fired until the guy was no longer a threat to him.”

Willis said the man’s accuracy was impressive. In an interview later, the man told Willis that his brother used to shoot firearms competitively and taught him to shoot.

As one could expect, the shooting left the man and his companion visibly shaken.

“He actually said, ‘I’m surprised I haven’t thrown up yet,’ ” Willis said. “He was that upset.”

Willis said he did not know much about the suspected robber. A criminal background check did not reveal any recent arrests by Atlanta police, but he might have a criminal history in DeKalb County.


50 posted on 01/15/2009 11:37:55 AM PST by Kennesaw
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To: Blueflag

I’d like to think it was six from a muzzle loader.


51 posted on 01/15/2009 11:45:16 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Blueflag
"I wonder if it was 6 for 6 from a revolver, or six of 15 from a semi ..."

While there just might be a 9mm revolver out there, I have never heard or seen of one. This is where a Freeper will post a picture of a 9mm revolver.

52 posted on 01/15/2009 11:45:34 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: FrPR
Excerpt from the article: The man got out of the truck and the suspected robber raised a weapon at him, Willis said. “When he saw that, he just started shooting,” the detective said." Hey, I am only going by what was written in the article. If you have other information please share it with the rest of us. Just copy and paste it.
54 posted on 01/15/2009 12:21:13 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: samtheman
I worry that some day this common-sense fairness on the part of the police will evaporate away into a haze of European-style "justice", in which the only real criminals are citizens defending their own lives.

If things become this way, then as often as possible those defending their lives with deadly force simply won't contact the police afterwards. When faced with defending ones life in opposition to the law, it's going to become less difficult to simply shoot, shovel and shut up....when possible.
55 posted on 01/15/2009 12:23:34 PM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: Kennesaw
“He told me he fired until the guy was no longer a threat to him.”

That's the phrase that pays my friends.

Toss in an "I was in fear of my life." and you've got a winner.

L

57 posted on 01/15/2009 12:35:48 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

I didn’t read the article carefully enough to discern the caliber of the weapon.

But like you wrote, as soon as you say “there ain’t no 9mm revolvers” some FReeper will post a pic of his/hers. ;-)


58 posted on 01/15/2009 12:40:38 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: School of Rational Thought

OMG.

I ‘googled’ “9mm revolver” ...

http://images.google.com/images?q=9mm%20revolver&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

They definitely do exist.


59 posted on 01/15/2009 12:42:09 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Vigilanteman
"Officer: Why did you need to shoot him six times?"

Well, officer, it was due to a chemical reaction from adrenaline. My body produces it when I'm scared spitless. I didn't realize I'd shot him that many times until the hammer went 'click', 'click', 'click' and I realized I was out of bullets...

60 posted on 01/15/2009 2:44:58 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
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