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Ron Paul: Israel had US OK for war on Gaza (Ron Paul sides with Hamas)
Press TV ^ | 1/5/09

Posted on 01/05/2009 11:50:56 AM PST by LdSentinal

Outspoken Republican congressman Ron Paul says Israel had received a green light from the United States to launch an offensive in Gaza.

The Texas congressman said the Israeli attack on the impoverished Gaza Strip shapes a bleak future for the whole world as it means that, "the whole idea of preemptive or preventive war is spreading."

He went on to challenge the idea of Hamas threatening Israel's security and argued that "Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel, who has nuclear weapons."

The US Congressman's remarks come as Israel continues to rebuff international efforts to end the assault on Gaza, and Israeli troops and tanks -- protected by heavy air, sea and artillery fire - have sliced through the center of Gaza and surrounded the main city.

The tenth day of the assault brings the number of Palestinian casualties to 530 with over 2,600 others wounded. The UN says that about 25 percent of the casualties were civilian deaths.

Paul added that the escalation of war in Gaza would contribute to the fall of economy on the global stage and in the US, explaining that the US involvement in too many wars is "draining us emotionally and financially".

Congressman Paul said that even though Israel has carried out the invasion of Gaza, "the United States will be blamed for it."

"Israel depends on us; they depend on us economically, they depend on us for their military power and all their weapons and they really got a green light from our administration," he explained.

Paul's comment comes after US vice president Dick Cheney said Israel did not seek Washington's approval for launching an offensive against Gaza.

"They didn't seek clearance or approval from us, certainly," Cheney said Sunday.

Earlier on Saturday, the Israeli website Debkafile cited sources in Washington as saying that US President George W. Bush had given a green light to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert for an all-out military operation in Gaza.

The GOP congressman also warned in July, that any Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear facilities would take place with the explicit backing of the US government.

Paul told Press TV that, "No matter what they do, it is our money, it is our weapons, and they are not going to do it without us approving it."


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To: Pistolshot; LdSentinal
"Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel...." ,p. See? He's not afraid of no missiles and seems to understand better than the people whose homes, schools, places of work and loved ones the missiles landed on. He'd make a great shield.
201 posted on 01/05/2009 6:54:51 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: little jeremiah

Yeah, RP is a real nut case. I didn’t consider voting for him after hearing his position on the WOT and national defense.

It’s a shame too because on the economy is way ahead of any one else.


202 posted on 01/05/2009 7:04:28 PM PST by stockpirate (Obama's COLB issue, Where's Rush, Sean, Laura, Mark, Ann & Malkin? SHAME ON THEM!)
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To: annalex

Your arguments are the distraction.

Every adult in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as well as those in Gaza, had/has the duty to stop their part in the aggression. There were warnings about the consequences. If they do not get out or do their part to stop the aggression, they share the blame for the aggression.


203 posted on 01/05/2009 7:22:27 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: annalex
Have you been living in a cave the last 10 years or so? You haven't seen the Pali terrorists using their women & children as suicide bombers? They infest their babies with hatred for the Jewish "apes & pigs"--and teach them that Allah wants them to die killing Jews.

Sorry, but "selective" targeting in a war is not an option when the enemy uses civilians as shields or the civ turns terrorist. If you were engaging them, do you think you could tell the "good guys" from the bad?

204 posted on 01/05/2009 7:23:14 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: annalex; NYC GOP Chick

You talk about theory, yet ignore the facts in hand. The civilians in the buildings are supporting Hamas. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be there or they would be fighting to overcome Hamas.

The mothers and fathers attempting to protect their children do not see anything “just” in waiting for the next missile or sending their young men and women in on the ground before the missile sources are destroyed.


205 posted on 01/05/2009 7:30:31 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: annalex
Preemptive it is not, but the Israeli response is vastly disproportionate.

"Vastly disproportionate"? How so?

If a neighbor was shooting random bullets at your house and had actually wounded or killed part of your family, how would you respond?

a. Ignore the shooting?

b. Shoot back randomly?

c. Try to eliminate the source of the shooting?

When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, should we have tried to bomb their base in the Kuriles, then called it a day?

In a shooting war, "disproportionate response" is a necessary element of victory. Anything less means only that the war (and the killing) will continue.

With all due respect, your objection is insane.

206 posted on 01/05/2009 7:37:01 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: little jeremiah
I am ashamed & disillusioned. and mad as hell. I read quite a bit of his Constitutional pages on the net, liked a lot of what he said-but I didn't really follow him that close. Almost voted for him, now glad I did not. What a rat. The comments on that site are sickening, as on many sites dealing with this Israeli-Hamas war.

Dont forget Condi Rice time & again telling Israel to calm down, don't react...she & Paul are , well, just a couple of bitches.

207 posted on 01/05/2009 7:46:25 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: luvadavi

Some people have terrible moral blindness (and historical, and factual...) when it comes to Israel and the Palestinians. There is plenty of info out there so that people can inform themselves properly. There is no excuse for remaining ignorant.


208 posted on 01/05/2009 8:08:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah
I wonder if any of these people blinded w/hatred ever stop to think that, if the jihadists annihilate Israel, the US would be next.

The Clinton-Bush machine has allowed millions of infidel-haters to infest our country and build their madrassas and mosques (arsenals). Trojan Horse.

209 posted on 01/05/2009 8:15:04 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: little jeremiah
I wonder if any of these people blinded w/hatred ever stop to think that, if the jihadists annihilate Israel, the US would be next.

The Clinton-Bush machine has allowed millions of infidel-haters to infest our country and build their madrassas and mosques (arsenals). Trojan Horse.

210 posted on 01/05/2009 8:15:14 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: maine-iac7
But this issue is a good one for us to compile a list of who our enemies - domestic - are. This is where their true colors show...

You got that right!

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.


211 posted on 01/05/2009 8:22:49 PM PST by rdb3 ([T]he cool regions of the head are easily trumped by the raging fires of the heart.)
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To: luvadavi

They must hate the US too.


212 posted on 01/05/2009 8:27:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah

Results of public education. Schools are madrassas in reverse, white kids taught to hate their own people, their own ancestors.


213 posted on 01/05/2009 8:36:05 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: luvadavi

There’s been a couple of articles about that in the last few days - even kids raised with good values often turn into liberal fanatics after years in public school, and even worse after university/college.


214 posted on 01/05/2009 8:48:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: BGHater

“The GOP and president Bush, Condi, sent millions to the PA. They built bombs with the money.”

It doesn’t matter to the RP haters.

In any event, didn’t Condi specify that US foreign aid money could only be used for weapons if the madrassas were fully funded first?


215 posted on 01/05/2009 9:19:08 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: mnehrling

The oracle of the House. Not surprising. Interesting media outlets he’s interacting with, but then he’s a history of distasteful friends and supporters.


216 posted on 01/05/2009 11:24:54 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: annalex
It doesn't follow. First, not everyone voted for Hamas, second, justice in war distinguish between combatants and non-combatants regardless of their political views.
And Israel has made realistic efforts to do so, including calling the homes ahead of time. To demand perfection is to relegate war to a theoretical exercise.
217 posted on 01/06/2009 12:29:41 AM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: annalex
The only rules of warfare is there are no rules.

All else is just fluff for those who do not understand the first rule.

Amazing that you pontificate Israel play 'fair', when there is no such thing as a 'fair' fight.

Hamas stole an election, mudered the opposition, as they are doing now, and has vowed to wipe Israel off the map.

In some circles that threat alone would be enough to warrant self defense,long before what Israel is doing now.

Hamas has been shooting rockets into Israel for at least two years, killing women and children, the rest of the world says nothing. Israel finally responds the most effective way it knows, elimination of the leadership and the threat by pure military force, and the world condemns Israel.

218 posted on 01/06/2009 5:29:21 AM PST by Pistolshot ("Democrats don't show respect, they just demand respect " - ClearCase_guy)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Your screen name might be (relatively) new, but the blustering and low-rent attacks are very familiar.


219 posted on 01/06/2009 7:40:49 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.israelsoldiers.org Friends of the IDF, taking care of soldiers, so the IDF can buy more bombs)
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To: annalex

Something from 1983 is centuries old?


220 posted on 01/06/2009 8:45:27 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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