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Ron Paul: Israel had US OK for war on Gaza (Ron Paul sides with Hamas)
Press TV ^ | 1/5/09

Posted on 01/05/2009 11:50:56 AM PST by LdSentinal

Outspoken Republican congressman Ron Paul says Israel had received a green light from the United States to launch an offensive in Gaza.

The Texas congressman said the Israeli attack on the impoverished Gaza Strip shapes a bleak future for the whole world as it means that, "the whole idea of preemptive or preventive war is spreading."

He went on to challenge the idea of Hamas threatening Israel's security and argued that "Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel, who has nuclear weapons."

The US Congressman's remarks come as Israel continues to rebuff international efforts to end the assault on Gaza, and Israeli troops and tanks -- protected by heavy air, sea and artillery fire - have sliced through the center of Gaza and surrounded the main city.

The tenth day of the assault brings the number of Palestinian casualties to 530 with over 2,600 others wounded. The UN says that about 25 percent of the casualties were civilian deaths.

Paul added that the escalation of war in Gaza would contribute to the fall of economy on the global stage and in the US, explaining that the US involvement in too many wars is "draining us emotionally and financially".

Congressman Paul said that even though Israel has carried out the invasion of Gaza, "the United States will be blamed for it."

"Israel depends on us; they depend on us economically, they depend on us for their military power and all their weapons and they really got a green light from our administration," he explained.

Paul's comment comes after US vice president Dick Cheney said Israel did not seek Washington's approval for launching an offensive against Gaza.

"They didn't seek clearance or approval from us, certainly," Cheney said Sunday.

Earlier on Saturday, the Israeli website Debkafile cited sources in Washington as saying that US President George W. Bush had given a green light to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert for an all-out military operation in Gaza.

The GOP congressman also warned in July, that any Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear facilities would take place with the explicit backing of the US government.

Paul told Press TV that, "No matter what they do, it is our money, it is our weapons, and they are not going to do it without us approving it."


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To: mnehrling

I don’t see how the air war strategy worked for Israel so far either.


141 posted on 01/05/2009 2:45:01 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: ArrogantBustard; annalex

That was to annalex, I had just copied you... (follow the post backward)


142 posted on 01/05/2009 2:45:35 PM PST by mnehring
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To: annalex

Ask Egypt about the effectiveness of Israel’s use of the ‘air war’ strategy. Ask Lebanon about the effectiveness of Israel not using the air war strategy.


143 posted on 01/05/2009 2:48:36 PM PST by mnehring
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To: annalex
Fog of war and all that.

Fog of war cannot be allowed to become an excuse for deliberately killing noncombatants ... it also cannot be allowed to become an excuse for hiding behind noncombatants. Absolute certainty is not possible, even for ground forces. In fact, I believe it's possible, in some cases, for aerial attack to be more proportionate and more discriminating than ground attack.

144 posted on 01/05/2009 2:52:23 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mnehrling

Why, I had recent Lebanon war in mind. Strikes on Qana did nothing for Israel, neither militarily or in terms of public opinion, but much for Hesbollah, and now the same mistake has been repeated in Gaza.


145 posted on 01/05/2009 2:57:03 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I don’t disagree with any of that.


146 posted on 01/05/2009 2:58:01 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: ArrogantBustard
as a tax-paying citizen of these United States

... you sure have something to say about IDF operations as well.

147 posted on 01/05/2009 3:02:24 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: LdSentinal

People(FReepers included)wanted us to vote for this ignorant SOB?


148 posted on 01/05/2009 3:06:43 PM PST by calex59
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To: 47samurai

Does it matter?


149 posted on 01/05/2009 3:06:53 PM PST by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: ArrogantBustard
How about a 10 year old child (who happens to be a student at the local Academy for Aspiring Suicide Bombers)?

How about reality? How about missiles raining down on Israel for months under a so called cease fire? How about defending your country(Israel)from people who want to annihilate you? Does your ignorant morality take these things into consideration, or do you just think it is ok for Muslims to kill Israelis but not for Israelis to kill Muslims?

150 posted on 01/05/2009 3:11:29 PM PST by calex59
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To: Navy Patriot
The writer of the article made this statement, the quote is not from the context of Mr. Paul's actual comments.

It makes Paul a terrorist apologist and justifies use of less powerful weapons.

You're a Navy vet? When did you serve? I ask because if you were active duty during Desert Storm you would have seen the Bush administration halt the war against Iraq after the 'highway of death' incident. Why did he do that and leave such a dangerous dictator in power?

Clinton executed the war in Kosovo from 20,000 feet. He bombed the infrastructure into vapor. The media was careful not to report civilian casualties.

Next, the current Iraq war has been executed with boots on the ground as opposed to leveling massive firepower against the Iraqis and finishing it off quickly. Why did GW Bush execute the war in this fashion? It is certain that American casualties have been higher because of this strategy.

Given the Bush Clinton Bush policies of the last 24 years, how is what Mr. Paul is saying, is different than what these presidents executed?
151 posted on 01/05/2009 3:13:37 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: LdSentinal

Ron Paul is an enemy to Israel and the U.S. and should removed from office ASAP.


152 posted on 01/05/2009 3:13:39 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless and protect His children in Israel and the IDF.)
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To: annalex

Hamas was elected by the citizens of Gaza so they are just as responsible as those who actively fight for the Hamas terrorist state. I would blame Israel for adopting WWII tactics and completely annhilating Gaza City from the air.


153 posted on 01/05/2009 3:21:13 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless and protect His children in Israel and the IDF.)
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To: Momma Republican

would = wouldn’t


154 posted on 01/05/2009 3:24:13 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless and protect His children in Israel and the IDF.)
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To: Momma Republican

A constitutional conservative is an enemy to the US? LOL


155 posted on 01/05/2009 3:29:22 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Brookhaven

Judging by the support he recieves from the likes of David Duke and his ilk, I think we all can guess exactly why he has that bias.


156 posted on 01/05/2009 3:30:18 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless and protect His children in Israel and the IDF.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

An apologist for terrorists and antisemites is a domestic enemy.


157 posted on 01/05/2009 3:43:29 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless and protect His children in Israel and the IDF.)
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To: mnehrling
HippiePaul
158 posted on 01/05/2009 3:51:13 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless and protect His children in Israel and the IDF.)
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To: LdSentinal
Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel

More malpractice by Paul. Why does he have such a hard time understanding that the proper function of government is protection of individual citizens from violation of rights and initiation of force from within and without? Why does he keep forgetting or ignoring the without part?

159 posted on 01/05/2009 3:51:43 PM PST by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

...and David Paterson!


160 posted on 01/05/2009 3:54:32 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.israelsoldiers.org Friends of the IDF, taking care of soldiers, so the IDF can buy more bombs)
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