Posted on 01/03/2009 7:01:24 AM PST by dascallie
Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).
The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.
Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).
The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie
Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************
No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.
This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.
I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.
How the hell would I know? If I could answer that I could also tell you why 99% of our politicians are free and not rotting in prison or shot for treason.
But I'll take a stab at it, there is something crooked going on?
Then please show evidence where Stanley Ann Dunham was born?
Either of these two can have a answer proving Obama is not natural born by way of his mother or his own birth.
Thank you for clearing that up.
She didn’t travel though, the family remained in WA state from 1955 until after her graduation from high school in June 1960, when the family moved to HI. All of her previous travel was within the U.S. For those of us who did travel immunizations were a necessary evil often given too often when encountering different controlling entities which argued their vaccine was stronger than one given previously by another entity! I know that because I had so many needless tetanus shots given that I developed a somewhat severe reaction to tetanus shots!
IIRC, Obama's attorneys filed for a protective order from Berg's discovery requests. I don;t know how it played out, but discovery requests don't come from the judge, they come from the other side. Legal wrangling as to what discovery requests should be granted occurs in most civil lawsuits. Until and unless the judge rules on the various legal motions that fly around during the discovery process, a discovery request from one party to the other has no legal force.
And even if theObama defense team refused to hand over some documentation even after a court order, you wouldn't likely see the DOJ getting involved. The most likely worst result would be the entering of a defualt judgment against them.
How do you know she didn’t travel outside the US with her parents before 1960?
No where does my response mean they are, it means blocked.
Obama cries racism everytime anyone does ask him anything. Blocked means don't even question me or else.
There is a bill brought forward to enforce proper vetting because once looked into it was found no one was responsible for vetting Obama. I cannot remember the sponsors offhand. Maybe you can find it.
I see the troll0bots and naive children have been playing with the keyword function.
I was looking to see if I could add some as it’s sometimes difficult to go back and find things.
What about Ann Dunhams middle school schooling in Beirut, Lebanon, Notre Dame de Jamhour?
I saw that. Thanks for the heads up!
Unless it was a marriage in name only to protect the status of the baby. She talked to her friends in Seattle about her marriage and her exciting husband even though she had already left him and was in WA to go to school. I think it was just to provide a cover story. And with the home, she could have just claimed she was unmarried—why would anyone check into it?
Again, what’s the point? She didn’t travel to Hawaii, she traveled to Seattle.
... This divorce decree is far from “nothing”, and another point I made on the “live” thread is that an unmarried American mother giving birth to a child on foreign soil still confers her citizenship to the child even if born to a foreigner (not sure how the age thing works in this case), but an American mother married to a foreign husband giving birth on foreign soil does NOT confer her citizenship upon said child. So, if indeed 0bama was born in Kenya, now that we know his parents were married, means ... that unless he became naturalized at some point, he may not be a US citizen at all...
Sorry if I left the wrong impression. I didn’t “know” Obama Sr., I was merely acquainted with him, as a fellow bar patron at Charlie’s Tavern, who would say hello, and act friendly if our paths crossed elsewhere. I didn’t even know where he lived. I tried to avoid giving the impression that we were anything more than acquaintances.
I will say this: he was quite popular with the co-eds (now there’s a term you don’t hear much these days), and was someone who always had the time and inclination to respond positively to expressions of interest from the opposite sex.
I suppose the term that might have been used to describe him in times past would have been “rake”.
Is it possible that there could have been another pregnant girl left behind: sure. easily, but I don’t know that.
Thanks chief...interesting but nothing RE: language. Think I’ll look on the 101 thread.
Ineligible.
What I am saying is that the fact (if so) that he forges a BC means he had to know or at least think that he was ineligible if born in Kenya.
Is that provable in a Supreme Court of Law (or in the Supreme Court of MSM)? Couldn't he still skate?
It the situation came up, it'd be tested in court. And I just don't see a US federal court ruling that such a citizen could not run for president, unless we really clear up the citizenship questions and stop granting citizenship to anyone born on US soil (which we should do, but probably won't).
AS I understand it, a bill has been proposed in the Oklahoma Legislature that would require Presidential candidates to provide proof a eligibility before being place on the Presidential Ballot.
Among the documents that would be accepted are a birth certificate or or U.S. Passport. However, we do know that Obama carries a U.S. Passport.
However, you must remember that Oklahoma has a Democratic governor.
I believe you are correct.
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