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So if you want a car or a job, go to the Internet. But don't expect that Web site to hire somebody to sit through town-council meetings and explain to you why your taxes will be going up. Soon, newspapers won't be able to do it either.

Nice try, Mr. Mulshine, but you fail.

Sadly, most "real journalists" only encourage the tax raising which springs from the equality-of-outcomes mindset.

I can easily imagine you as wordsmith to the Crown in pre-Revolutionary America, comtemptuous and dismissive of incensed anti-tax pamphlet writers - patriot bloggers, if you will.

1 posted on 12/27/2008 11:43:59 AM PST by shoptalk
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So if you want a car or a job, go to the Internet. But don't expect that Web site to hire somebody to sit through town-council meetings and explain to you why your taxes will be going up. Soon, newspapers won't be able to do it either.

I guess the best newspaper reporters this clown knows also explain in an understandable way why your taxes SHOULD go up. My newspaper explains it all the time.

Newspapers aren't going out of business because of the internet. They are going out of business because they decided, maybe fifty years ago, that their primary market would be people who can't read.

60 posted on 12/27/2008 1:51:26 PM PST by stevem
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When Tom Brokaw admitted to Charlie Rose the weekend before the 2008 election, after Obama’s two years of campaigning and running for the White House, that ‘we don’t know much about him’, Brokaw was inadvertantly admitting that modern journalism had failed in being the ‘vetting’ force.

That is the same journalistic group that kept crying that vetting candidates was their duty, their responsibility.

Instead, they abrogated their responsibility, their duty, and decided they preferred heaping massive attacks on a citizen questioner such as Joe the Plumber or scrutinizing the moral values of relatives of the GOP vice presidential nominee rather than vetting the Dem nominee and his vp nominee.

The MSM made Obama the Dem nominee and got him elected. The MSM made McCain the GOP nominee and got him defeated. The MSM won those in 2008, but their methodology lost them the trust of the general public. That general public has turned to the Internet to get raw news, rather than the filtered pablum of propaganda the MSM has become adept at feeding.


65 posted on 12/27/2008 2:18:45 PM PST by TomGuy
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I disagree and believe that the public will miss us once we're gone.

No, we really won't.

66 posted on 12/27/2008 2:28:39 PM PST by wastedyears (In Canada, Santa says "Ho Ho, eh?")
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The man is absolutely right,

“Fake” journalists are no replacement for “real” journalists.

“Fake” bloggers are no replacement for “real” bloggers.

The “average” journalist is no replacement for the “best” blogger, and the “average” blogger, is no replacement for the “best” journalist. But the best blogger is likely to be
more than just a replacement for the best journalist; he is likely to be a replacement for everything that has ever been written before.

That is the point overlooked in these discussions — that maybe the average journalist may be better than an average blogger, the best blogger is the summation of every writer that’s ever been — because the population sample is much larger, and he is the one in a hundred million instead of just the one in a hundred thousand.

It’s like the evolution of the Olympic Games and world records — when there were only tens of thousands who could compete; but when the whole world competes, you have to be a truly gifted person born, bred, and made for that event — because you’re not going to be able to fake it.

When Mr. Moonshine is a bona fide genius himself, we’ll be the first to let him know.


68 posted on 12/27/2008 2:54:05 PM PST by MikeHu
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It's incredibly convenient, but that same technology is killing old-fashioned newspapers.

The problem with that is????????

I disagree and believe that the public will miss us once we're gone.

The only thing I miss, is having to drag the recycle bin full of "mostly unread" papers to the street.

JJJ

69 posted on 12/27/2008 4:28:16 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The main stream media lied - America died.)
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So-called mainstream journalism has become little more than a cheering section for and a campaign arm of the Democratic Party. That is the problem. I won’t spent any money on a film with Sean Penn, Streisand, or many of the other leftist elitists, and I won’t spend money on a newspaper dedicated to supporting the leftists. I will buy an LA TIMES again on the day they use the term “illegal alien.” But, of course, that is not going to happen.


70 posted on 12/27/2008 4:30:05 PM PST by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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“Bloggers are no replacement for real journalists”

Might be right.

If there were any real journalists left in any appreciable number.

Instead, mostly what’s available are wannabe Pulitzer Prize-winning opinion columnists making the “news” up as they go along, to fit their own biases.


76 posted on 12/28/2008 6:05:38 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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I'd be inclined to agree that bloggers aren't a substitute for real journalists.

The problem is we have essentially no real journalists anymore. (cf. Orson Scott Card's " Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?" )

Given a choice between bloggers and the crowd that turned the newsrooms of America into Obama's Ministry of Truth, I'll take the bloggers.

77 posted on 12/28/2008 7:44:19 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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I just looked up the definition of "delusional" in the dictionary and found a picture of Mr. Mulshine beside it. Does he really think newspapers are offering a desirable, high-quality product and we're just too stupid to realize it? No, reporters and editors quit practicing journalism decades ago. Newspapers are dying because the supply has dried up, not the demand.

Hey, I just got a great idea! You know how we have all those illegal aliens who are willing to do the work that Americans are unwilling to do? Why don't we put them to work as journalists? :)

80 posted on 12/29/2008 10:29:36 AM PST by VoiceOfBruck (There's no such thing as "some" freedom of speech)
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*** CORRECTION ***
 
Bloggers ARE a WELCOME replacement to the existing POOR level of journalistic efforts.

93 posted on 12/30/2008 6:23:29 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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