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The proper comparison for Obama is not Lincoln, but, Caligula.
1 posted on 12/25/2008 4:34:31 PM PST by obamaisandrogynous
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Good point about how the Communists sought to appropriate Lincoln’s image.


2 posted on 12/25/2008 4:39:32 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: obamaisandrogynous

It’s hard for me to imagine a less apt comparison between two people than one between Barack Obama and Abraham Lincoln.


6 posted on 12/25/2008 4:56:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We are partisans only of what is right: America's Independent Party, www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

“Barry hasn’t freed an entire people left in bondage, or managed a cross-continental war, successfully.”

Lincoln didn’t do that either. He emancipated only the slaves held in states under rebellion. They weren’t freed in the north. It was an act to control an asset of war...slavery, by the commander in chief.

The second point, that he successfully managed the war is arguable as well. ‘Emancipating’ the South’s labor source was the best tactical move he made. And that is what it was. It didn’t end slavery.


8 posted on 12/25/2008 4:59:25 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

American Communists named the organization in which they served during the Spanish Civil War the Lincoln Brigade. Interesting...


9 posted on 12/25/2008 5:04:02 PM PST by canalabamian (Durka durka...Muhammad FUBAR!)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

No where mentioned by the MSM is that Lincoln was the first Republican President and advocated minimal interference by government in the economy.


14 posted on 12/25/2008 5:21:11 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous
Many conservative commentators criticize these comparisons of Lincoln and Obama, rightly, it is true, by pointing out that, aside from being elected to ever higher political office, Obama really “hasn’t done anything" for America.

When he was sworn in, Lincoln had accomplished almost nothing for America except some stirring rhetoric. His political office experience was remarkably similar to Obama's, several terms in the IL legislature and two years in the House. Obama: several terms in the IL legislature and four years in the Senate.

IMO Lincoln's rhetoric had a great more deal more substance to it than Obama's, but as far as actual accomplishments in politics, and particularly in executive experience, the two men are remarkably similar.

15 posted on 12/25/2008 5:36:28 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

c’mon. Both were born in places starting with KEN


18 posted on 12/25/2008 5:48:13 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: obamaisandrogynous
The MSM view of Hussien and gang...




19 posted on 12/25/2008 5:58:07 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

“The proper comparison for Obama is not Lincoln, but, Caligula.”

Interesting. Why Caligula?


23 posted on 12/25/2008 6:35:35 PM PST by RedMonqey (Embracing my "Inner Redneck")
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To: obamaisandrogynous

If he admires Lincoln so much, does that mean He’ll print Greenbacks and tell the Fed to take a hike?

I think he role models Mussolini more than Lincoln.


25 posted on 12/25/2008 6:42:31 PM PST by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Although the limit to Obama’s arrogance is over the horizon, this move could charitably seen as a tribute by Obama to the president who began the chain of events that made it possible for a black person to be president.


28 posted on 12/25/2008 6:47:52 PM PST by AZLiberty (I hope Obama changes.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous
Lincoln Quotes. Sound like Obama? I think NOT. Obama, you are and never will be an Abraham Lincoln. You are and always will be a lowly Chicago pay to play pseudo politician bought and paid fro by Soros, MSM and Acorn.

“Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.”

“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it. “

“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time” (hear that BO?)

“Let every American, every lover of liberty, every well wisher to his posterity, swear by the blood of the Revolution, never to violate in the least particular, the laws of the country; and never to tolerate their violation by others.”

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution”

“The people will save their government, if the government itself will allow them. “

“I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts. “

“I hope to stand firm enough to not go backward, and yet not go forward fast enough to wreck the country's cause.”

“If once you forfeit the confidence of your fellow-citizens, you can never regain their respect and esteem”

“Republicans are for both the man and the dollar, but in case of conflict the man before the dollar.”

“Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right.”

“Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.”

“Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. “

“A house divided against itself cannot stand.”

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. “

“...I know that the Lord is always on the side of the right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the Lord's side.”

“Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it.”

“There is more involved in this contest than is realized by every one. There is involved in this struggle the question whether your children and my children shall enjoy the privileges we have enjoyed.”

“Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail; without it nothing can succeed.”

“In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book.”

“Property is the fruit of labor...property is desirable...is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built.”

“We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others, the same word may mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men's labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name - liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names - liberty and tyranny.”

“At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

“I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility and Union.”

and last:

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

He said this, shocking, but he did.

29 posted on 12/25/2008 7:00:00 PM PST by KellyM37 (Barack Obama's mental illness..........PATHOLOGICAL NARCISSIST... show us the medical records)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Is it really a good idea to adopt the image of a president who was ultimately assassinated? I know I would hesitate doing it. Let’s hope Mr. Obama doesn’t like to go to the theater.


31 posted on 12/25/2008 7:06:05 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Obama doing so is, IMO, appropriate since I believe LINCOLN WAS THE WORST, THE MOST TRAITOROUS PRESIDENT OF ALL. We may have anogther uncivil war within the years of Obama’s presidency.


37 posted on 12/25/2008 7:34:49 PM PST by Aroostook25
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Just be glad he isn’t taking the oath on Jefferson’s quran.


47 posted on 12/25/2008 9:14:10 PM PST by onedoug
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To: obamaisandrogynous; Bender2; Lil'freeper

Beginning of nObama inaugural speech: "For sure and, uh, several months ago, uh, our voters brought forth on this continent, uh, a new hope for change, uh, conceived in ignorance, and, uh, dedicated to the proposition that I am The One...."

54 posted on 12/26/2008 8:56:43 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: obamaisandrogynous
The communists also cast themselves as the rightful heirs of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.

Wasn't there a Commie Abraham Lincoln Brigade that went to fight in the Spanish Civil War?
67 posted on 12/29/2008 5:32:59 PM PST by aruanan
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