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To: jveritas
Dude, we want to look rational in our criticisms of Obama. If we start screaming about Birth Certificates and Black Helicopters, we are going to look unhinged.

If, otoh, our criticisms are substantive and policy based, we will differentiate ourselves from the Left, and build a groundwork for a return to power.

It's as simple as that. Yes, there are Obama trolls, but most conservatives don't want go running around calling Bambi a Muslim.

Best,

Chris

7 posted on 12/25/2008 1:34:49 PM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: section9

Agree 100% Chris.


15 posted on 12/25/2008 1:37:20 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: section9
we are going to look unhinged.

And the hairy guys in pink thongs in parades in SF (The Demo-graphic) that helped elect BO are "hinged"?

/johnny

27 posted on 12/25/2008 1:44:33 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: section9

I am appalled at this thread and the poster who started it.

Lately FR is full of people who remind me of the taliban in their vitrioll and just meanness.

They would like to see this country fall, the economy tank rather than see Obama have any success.

Call me what anyone likes but that is what I see and I am sticking to it.


33 posted on 12/25/2008 1:46:24 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: section9
"Dude, we want to look rational in our criticisms of Obama. If we start screaming about Birth Certificates and Black Helicopters, we are going to look unhinged....

Fine.

If YOU and others want to believe a Whitey-hating, Muslim-Marxist Empty-Suit like Ubama became "President Elect" simply on the virtues of "HOPE and CHANGE," then I'm afraid you must have just missed Santa coming down your chiminey...But then again there's always Easter.

Right Chris...Nothing at all to see hear - move along. WE'RE the ones who are nuts.

44 posted on 12/25/2008 1:52:44 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: section9

“If we start screaming about Birth Certificates and Black Helicopters, we are going to look unhinged”

Barack Obama is unlikely to be a US citizen. If you can’t see that, I think you have a blind spot, as many people do. The idea that we should ignore the apparent truth if it disturbs some people is not one that I support. We do have an obligation to support our arguments with facts.

As for censoring and banning people, in general I’m opposed to it ( except for obscenity, threats, etc ). Let the Obama trolls make their best arguments, and then let’s refute those arguments, as we have. That’s more persuasive than presenting a monolithic opinion, where everyone agrees with everone else.

Of course this website is the private property of Jim Robinson, and he can do what he wants with it. The rest of us are Jim’s guests.


45 posted on 12/25/2008 1:53:35 PM PST by devere
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To: section9
Dude, let the courts decide and stop putting down those eagerly awaiting whatever may come of the birth certificates.

People like you are the problem when real constitutional issues are at hand.

So, please stop looking like you are unhinged from conservatism.

48 posted on 12/25/2008 1:54:23 PM PST by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: section9

Why is the man refusing to present his birth certificate to assure Americans he is lawfully eligible to be President? A few months back I would have agreed with you now because of his continued refusal something is definitely not right. It makes any sane American THINK he is either NOT a US Citizen or he is not a natural born citizen. If both of these thoughts are incorrect then why oh why for his refusal to present that BC?


94 posted on 12/25/2008 2:10:41 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: section9

Keeping with the spirit of policy based criticism, I will give credit where credit is due if O does the right thing/s (which I seriously doubt). Remember Rush Limbaugh himself said a few weeks ago that he would be O’s biggest champion if he cut taxes, etc (which again he seriously doubted)


100 posted on 12/25/2008 2:15:47 PM PST by libh8er
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To: section9

Right on the money

There will be many things to criticize the President Elect on policy wise and why his policies are terrible for this nation

Lets focus on that, as opposed to fringe things such as “is he a Muslim” or “where was he born?”

If we stay on the offensive on policy issues we will differentiate ourselves from the lunatic left in this country and marginalize them

The key thing is FOCUS. FOCUS on what matters, the dangerous economic policies that the President Elect plans to put forward and his naive foreign policy, not silly stuff like birth certificates


111 posted on 12/25/2008 2:19:14 PM PST by MadIsh32 (The token Muslim :))
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To: section9
Dude, we want to look rational in our criticisms of Obama. If we start screaming about Birth Certificates and Black Helicopters, we are going to look unhinged.

Well said. The Clinton experience should have taught us that one must be serious and substantive to have any chance at bringing about political change.

125 posted on 12/25/2008 2:31:39 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: section9

If we start screaming about Birth Certificates
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I believe our Founding Fathers would agree that the common citizen has a right to ask the president elect to produce a valid birth certificate, passports, draft registration, and college admission records.


136 posted on 12/25/2008 2:40:33 PM PST by wintertime
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To: section9
>If we start screaming about Birth Certificates

Yeah that whole CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT thing is like so late 1800's.

/s for the socialist impaired.

Why pretend our current gov even knows what the CONSTITUTION "IS"TM BillyJeff or cares to uphold it anymore?

147 posted on 12/25/2008 2:48:02 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (2nd assistant bookeeper)
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To: section9
If we start screaming about Birth Certificates and Black Helicopters

  I fly the black helicopters and I think Obama's natural born status is much more important.
165 posted on 12/25/2008 3:00:41 PM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: section9

And of course we have the endless idiots who haven’t researched the COLB issue but like to follow the republican leadership like the sheep they are and not support those who have researched the issue.

And what really takes the cake is these same RINO supporters want their important issues like the 2nd amendment supported by others while ignoring the constitutional issues of COLB.

end sarcasm

screw helping Obama in any way what so ever.

Conservatives should fight every leftist issue with dead lock.

Purge the party of all RINO’S and FR.


199 posted on 12/25/2008 3:39:07 PM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: section9
Are you a OBCI?


365 posted on 12/25/2008 6:46:18 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: section9

“but most conservatives don’t want go running around calling Bambi a Muslim”

He’s a Kenysn Muslim!!!!


400 posted on 12/25/2008 8:41:11 PM PST by dalereed
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To: section9

since he failed to attend church services on Christmas....we cannot call him a Christian. so what is he?


430 posted on 12/26/2008 10:45:06 AM PST by tioga (Merry Christmas!)
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To: section9
If, otoh, our criticisms are substantive and policy based,... we will be completely ignored. Pls see tagline. -
444 posted on 12/26/2008 12:14:19 PM PST by j_tull (Jeremiah Wright's prayer has been answered. God has damned America.)
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