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To: romanesq
It also seems to be part of an American sense of entitlement not seen in other places.

Nonsense. It is your married male friends who appear to consider themselves entittled. If you have ANY talent in the sack, and you marry the right woman, she will WANT to make love most of the time. Prager needs a female anatomy lesson and maybe he would get more from Mrs. Prager.

113 posted on 12/23/2008 6:43:08 AM PST by PasorBob
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To: PasorBob

“Prager needs a female anatomy lesson and maybe he would get more from Mrs. Prager.”

Bingo!!!


121 posted on 12/23/2008 6:50:49 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: PasorBob
If you have ANY talent in the sack, and you marry the right woman, she will WANT to make love most of the time.

That is precisely the attitude that society infuses men with and EXACTLY the thing that destroys their self confidence if their woman is not constantly in the mood.
131 posted on 12/23/2008 7:07:33 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: PasorBob

“Nonsense. It is your married male friends who appear to consider themselves entittled. If you have ANY talent in the sack, and you marry the right woman, she will WANT to make love most of the time. Prager needs a female anatomy lesson and maybe he would get more from Mrs. Prager. “

Nope, you are completely wrong sorry. I saw it happening with friends and if you think it’s a talent issue then you have an odd concept of the marital union.

I guess those minor league batters who don’t make it to the majors should give it up then. From A ball to Triple A, that’s a lot of ballplayers. LOL

This idea of marriage being everything BUT a union of man and wife is what is leading to this dysfunction.

My buddy “the monk” couldn’t even get his wife to join him on a weekend to go to a museum and spend some relationship time. She had everything else a priority except that. And I know her well. Went to college with her. She was a humanities major in our lovely NYC private university and got plenty of feminism training.

She had an overbearing mother and never learned what being a good wife meant. She knew about going for her goals, more education, more house, more “self-fulfillment” but she didn’t have a clue about taking care of her man.

In college she tried to hook me but I saw her attitude then and she was very difficult even in then. She carried this right into marriage.

And when the problems arose, the guy stayed with me for a spell and thankfully they did work things out as they have two lovely children.

When I last visited, it was great to see her laughing and leaning her head on him at the end of the evening.

She finally “got it.”

My other friend, well that was going for a while. He could be obnoxious when he was with his wife early on and you’d be in the car and he’d be singing “No one does it better” from the Bond movie with you in the back seat. Nauseating.

She eventually cut him off from any sex and after a few years he tried counseling but after one session she refused saying it was too inconvenient a location.

She then asked for a separation and in less than a year a divorce. Not three months later she told him she was getting remarried. To the Mexican gardner.

So I guess those gardening tools really add to the “talent” you cite which you deem invaluable to a marriage.

Good luck with that.


156 posted on 12/23/2008 7:52:36 AM PST by romanesq
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To: PasorBob
Prager needs a female anatomy lesson and maybe he would get more from Mrs. Prager.

Prager is divorced.....twice.

157 posted on 12/23/2008 7:53:38 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: PasorBob

“and you marry the right woman”

And there is the flaw in your statement. I married my first wife at 21. I had not a clue what was the “right” woman.

I married my second wife at 44. I had very MUCH a clue at who was the right woman for ME. Funny thin is, I met her not three months after my then wife of 20 years kicked me out “without cause”. Meanwhile, I am in marital bliss the likes of which I thought only existed in Princess Bride, while she goes from boyfriend to boyfriend with knockdown dragout fights (so say my now grown daughters).

I don’t wish ill on her, but the chickens did come home to roost. It happens. Blamed me for all her problems, even after I went to counseling, read books, grew up, and on and on.

Marrying the right woman is either the answer to prayer (I was not a Christian the first time I got married) or a crapshoot.

But then, I feel that love is a choice. All people are loveable and hateable. You CHOOSE to love your spouse and want the best for them. At least that is the commitment we all made at the altar.


280 posted on 12/23/2008 3:16:06 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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