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Harkin [and Durbin] Proposes $10K Auto Purchase Rebate (Get a load o' this!)
KCCI, Des Moines ^ | 1:39 pm CST December 12, 2008

Posted on 12/16/2008 7:29:20 AM PST by newgeezer

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Sen. Tom Harkin is proposing new legislation that he said would increase the demand for American cars.

Along with Sen. Dick Durbin, of Illinois, Harkin introduced a bill earlier this week that in turn would take older, less-fuel-efficient cars off the road, while also giving buyers a big bonus.

The Sell Fuel Efficient Cars Act would provide a rebate of $10,000 to buyers who trade in a car more than 10 years old for a new American car.

Officials said the reason for the act is to help create demand for American cars and preserve jobs in the weak economy.

The rebate would be limited to families with an adjusted gross income below $40,000 a year or individuals making less than $25,000.

To get the rebate, you would be required to turn in a car more than 10 years old that is still drivable.

The rebate would only apply to purchases of fuel-efficient GM, Ford or Chrysler vehicles that are assembled in the United States. The car would have to have an average fuel economy of 25 miles per gallon.

Officials said close to 15 percent of automobiles that are manufactured by the Big Three automakers would qualify for the rebate.

There would be a one-car limit per family or individual and the program would end in 2009.

[The source article includes a video news clip.]


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: bailout; bigthree; detroit; durbin; harkin
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To: camle

If I could buy a car for $9,500, I might do this.


21 posted on 12/16/2008 7:38:22 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: newgeezer

What a great idea. The two step house rebate program, aka loans to the poor followed by a bailout, got all kinds of negative publicity. So now they skip the government loan phase and go straight to the rebate.


22 posted on 12/16/2008 7:38:37 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Dan 4:17 and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.)
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To: newgeezer

Just think what that will do to brand prestige. American car = “I’m on welfare”.


23 posted on 12/16/2008 7:39:22 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

yep! let’s drive up the price of cars so that everybody can afford one!

teh words “Crack” and “pot” come to mind when I think of this scheme...


24 posted on 12/16/2008 7:39:39 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: newgeezer
Unintended consequences - Part 1: The Big Three can raise their prices to pocket most of the rebate and still be competitive with foreign cars, so that the net savings to buyers will be much smaller than the cost to taxpayers.

Unintended consequences - Part 2: Trade in value for used cars will fall by a huge amount, again lowering the net savings to buyers.

Unintended consequences - Part 3: In yet another waste of our tax dollars, money that would otherwise have been productively generating wealth will be transferred from our wallets through corrupt Washington officials to the big unions and big business. Our kids get to pay all that money back.

Sorry, I noticed the payback for big Democrat donors in this liberal tax-and-spend scheme, but I missed the upside.

25 posted on 12/16/2008 7:39:39 AM PST by MathDoc (War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
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To: camle

I see the value of junk car inventories at scrap yards just went up.


26 posted on 12/16/2008 7:40:20 AM PST by HD1200
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To: umgud

“If I was one of the other American carmakers I’d sue for unfair business practices or something. This is just plain unfair and if not, it should be illegal”.

I am not a lawyer, but I am almost positive that this is unconstitutional. Maybe a FR lawyer can tell us otherwise.


27 posted on 12/16/2008 7:40:37 AM PST by neocon1984
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To: newgeezer
"The Sell Fuel Efficient Cars Act would provide a rebate of $10,000 to buyers who trade in a car more than 10 years old for a new American car."

Most excellent! I will trade in my 12 year old Jeep Cherokee for a Mercedes made in Tuscaloosa County Alabama, U.S.A,

28 posted on 12/16/2008 7:40:43 AM PST by avacado
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To: newgeezer
Fast Eddie down at the corner user car lot is drooling over this.

His inventory of 1994 Yugos just got more valuable.

"Buy a three-dollar car now for $500! Trade in tomorrow for $10k!

29 posted on 12/16/2008 7:40:50 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: newgeezer
The rebate would only apply to purchases of fuel-efficient GM, Ford or Chrysler vehicles that are assembled in the United States.

Ha! Ha! None of the above vehicles exist. All "American made" cars are manufactured in either Canada, Mexico, Brazil,...
Everywhere but here in America.

These demoncraps are sure willy little b******s aren't they?

30 posted on 12/16/2008 7:41:21 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: newgeezer
And, where is the wisdom in encouraging a family making < $40K/year to take on thousands of dollars in car debt? Typical government "help."

most 25mpg cars that'd be sold would probably be cobalts, aveos, neons, focuses, etc. cars that aren't much over $10k to begin with.
unfortunately, what would likely happen is that the minute they got that rebate, they'd head down to the next dealer down the street to trade up for a navigator, escalade, expidition, hummer, etc.
the bright side is the repo business would stay brisk. :)

31 posted on 12/16/2008 7:41:22 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: Brett66

that 9550 car will go up to 10550 very soon, and those who buy the most new cars, those making over the incomc limit, will put off their purchases, so the net volume of new cars going out the door will plummet.

way to go washington! swift.


32 posted on 12/16/2008 7:41:48 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: newgeezer
The rebate would be limited to families with an adjusted gross income below $40,000 a year or individuals making less than $25,000.

Durbin and Harkin asking people who make less than UAW workers to bail out UAW workers who make far more.

Talk about robbing Peter to pay Paul.

33 posted on 12/16/2008 7:41:55 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: camle
"i see the price of cars going up at least 10K in the near future..."

Yup. The used car market will temporally explode. In fact, I probably should go buy that old used car down the road for $800.00 so that I can qualify. (ahem)

34 posted on 12/16/2008 7:42:29 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

how can you buy a used car if Obamacrats are going to tax the heck out of gasoline or outright BAN gasoline?


35 posted on 12/16/2008 7:43:33 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: HD1200

since the tradein has to be drivable, this would be a lesser side effect.

any market will expand to absorb any additional capital thrown into it - just look at the health care market.

one would think that even a politician would have more brains than this.


36 posted on 12/16/2008 7:43:41 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: newgeezer

-—as a retiree with a Geo Tracker with 157,000 miles on it-—hummmmm!!!! (sarc)


37 posted on 12/16/2008 7:44:03 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: newgeezer; All

38 posted on 12/16/2008 7:45:19 AM PST by musicman
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To: umgud
This is just plain unfair and if not, it should be illegal.

All of this bailout stuff violates the "equal protection" clause of the Constitution. But the intelligentsia doesn't care about the Constitution anymore.

39 posted on 12/16/2008 7:45:31 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: camle

I have a 99 Corrola with 160,00 miles that runs great. I can sell it to my college student daughter for a dollar, buy a new GM car, score the rebate, trade the GM car in on a new Corrola!

Sign me up!


40 posted on 12/16/2008 7:45:31 AM PST by y6162 (ater)
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