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Major Newspapers Will Fail After Christmas - So Much for Pandering to Women... [FR dissed]
Mens News Daily ^ | Dec 8, 2008 | Jim Peterson

Posted on 12/08/2008 12:29:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson

The Miami Herald and Chicago Tribune have practically announced bankruptcy and are both now valued at less than the value of the real estate they own (prime bay-front property in Miami and a skyscraper in Chicago).

Even better, McClatchy Newspapers itself, a newspaper chain with a documented anti-male bias, is saddled with so much debt that it will probably not last through 2009...

~~snip~~

A vestige of Andrew Marton’s article can be found at FreeRepublic.com where you can see that this once-conservative forum is now dominated by man-hating old women and FReepers discussing the story were no allowed to mention the word feminism in regard to the FReeper nmh’s hate-filled diatribes against men who would date foreign women (I know first-hand that any such comments mentioning feminism were deleted).

Exhibit C: The forum FreeRepublic.com was once a place for conservative men to bash feminism freely and often. It was the favorite topic for years. But, since early 2006, most anti-feminist FReepers have had their accounts deleted so as not to antagonize the aging baby boomer females the crippled owner, Jim Robinson, wants to keep in the Republican Party. Jim Robinson’s attitude seems to be just like that of Rupert Murdoch of Fox News…he seems to think that “strong feminist women” should be the backbone of the Republican Party. This is insane. I do NOT think these men are motivated by the concept that 80% of corporate purchase decisions are made by women.

It is easy to logon as a member of the once-mighty conservative FreeRepublic.com. Try doing so and mentioning feminism in a comment somewhere. See how quickly you can be deleted.

Then watch how the readership of the blog has fallen considerably since they turned feminist.

Where was the monetary advantage for this conservative forum to go feminist?

(Excerpt) Read more at mensnewsdaily.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: feminism; liberalmedia; newspapers
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To: b9; ElkGroveDan

I usually tend to think of posters as male until they post something that makes me believe otherwise.

In FO’s case, I always thought she was a woman. If she was really a he, I’d guess he was of the effeminate version. Hence, the Mehlman comment struck me as particularly humorous.

Needless to say, FO lives on under alternative freeper names, posting unbelievable hype from the latest version of talking points.


201 posted on 12/08/2008 7:01:33 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Needless to say, FO lives on under alternative freeper names, posting unbelievable hype from the latest version of talking points.

Likely so.

If she was really a he, I’d guess he was of the effeminate version.

That was my conclusion.

202 posted on 12/08/2008 7:06:56 PM PST by b9
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To: calcowgirl

Names such as FOs immeadiately raise a flag for me.

As in they start with Not-Fair-Opinion with me.

BTW, for what it’s worth, I wish that were true for me!


203 posted on 12/08/2008 7:13:11 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Names such as FOs immeadiately raise a flag for me. As in they start with Not-Fair-Opinion with me.

Yep!

I wish that were true for me!

LOL!

Well, mine should be wanna-be-cowgirl-stuck-in-urban-hell! LOL.
(Actually, not quite hell... the great Pacific Ocean does have benefits ya can't find on the ranch) ;-)

204 posted on 12/08/2008 7:39:33 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: fortunecookie

i guess we should have a debate of whether or not al gore is a man, asexual or a robot?


205 posted on 12/08/2008 8:06:35 PM PST by SerafinQ
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To: SerafinQ
Only Tipper knows for sure! ;-)

Good call, you summed it up. I think it could be both - he seems to be morphing into an asexual robot.

206 posted on 12/08/2008 9:27:30 PM PST by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Who is this limp wristed Peterson person? Never heard of him/her....someone who's been banned, perhaps? Hmmmmm????
207 posted on 12/08/2008 10:16:38 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY!)
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To: mkjessup
Hey, if you're gonna go with feminist mods, get some that aren't so long in the tooth would ya? Maybe some that would put up their pix for us to ogle, errr, 'admire', yeah that's it! ;)


You've never seen the pics of the Mods?

Here's a picture of the girl mods.
That oughta zap yer Zot!
208 posted on 12/09/2008 12:13:56 AM PST by Syncro (tagline)
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To: vetvetdoug

So that’s her site now, huh?

: >)


209 posted on 12/09/2008 12:16:46 AM PST by Syncro (tagline)
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To: Syncro

Hot damn! I’m hoping the one on the right will be playing Ms. Claus this year so I can tell her what I want for Christmas, LOL


210 posted on 12/09/2008 12:18:01 AM PST by mkjessup (God, guns & guts have kept America free, we still need all three. The 'Arsenal of Democracy' is 'US')
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow, Jim. Did you know you had turned into such a flaming feminist?


211 posted on 12/09/2008 12:21:04 AM PST by Luke21
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To: mkjessup
Well, first of all they are all on the right...

So no prob.

212 posted on 12/09/2008 12:23:42 AM PST by Syncro (tagline)
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To: Syncro

An astute observation! ;)


213 posted on 12/09/2008 3:07:46 AM PST by mkjessup (God, guns & guts have kept America free, we still need all three. The 'Arsenal of Democracy' is 'US')
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To: Kevmo; mnehrling

As you describe it I’ve no problem. Only why not do it on a personal basis instead of it being an FR thing (at least that’s how I interpret your idea...I may be wrong). Set up your own matrix and see how people fall in place on it. I believe mnehrling had a matrix he posted during the primaries that showed where candidates fell on the political spectrum.

Like you, I tend to stay away from those who’ve outed themselves; Paulettes especially. Not just because of their political stance but because they pontificate and patronize anyone not in lock step with them. THAT’S why I don’t want something like this to become overbearing. I’ve experienced it from the other end from those yokels.

So, go for it. If Jim believes it’s something beneficial for FR, fine. But FR has existed for how many years without such a tool, is it really necessary now? I simply believe in our monitoring our interactions ourselves, calling on the Viking Kitties when necessary to deal with the obvious Troll. It works when needed and also provides an amount of good entertainment; especially when they let us play awhile. That’s something I look forward to...


214 posted on 12/09/2008 4:35:57 AM PST by bcsco
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To: bcsco
I believe you are referring to something like the political compass. I'll try to find a new one (mine is below as an example). I do have a little problem though with the concept of a narrow conservative litmus test. Yes, we are a Conservative site, but many people have different value areas that they put out as you either believe in x or you are not Conservative. I've seen statements like "the fair tax is the only litmus test for Conservatives". You can replace fair tax with almost anything and you'll find it here. The problem with that is it doesn't mean that other issues like abortion are not important to that person or they believe differently, it just means that the fair tax is their #1 priority. Unfortunately, others may take that that as an assumption they are a RINO because they are focused on that one issue.

Things like this have caused a decrease in critical thinking. It has gotten bad lately, especially with things like the COLB. If you dare question anything, you are labeled a 'anti-Constitution', Obama supporting traitor (and don't even let me get into the FReepmails..) all for daring question, for example, the credentials of the person who claimed to be an expert saying the COLB was fake. This is just an example, but you can see this type of hostility to critical thinking popping up on a lot of things. Thinking critically doesn't mean you disagree, it means you are trying to get the facts out of the static and not blindly following. Far too many want just a sounding board with no exploration or challenge. It is almost as if they don't believe strongly in their argument so they are afraid of any challenge that may make that argument crumble. The litmus test may be similar, some may want it because they are insecure in their own belief and if someone doesn't share the exact same priority and dot on the chart, they see it as threatening. Not a way to strengthen your own thinking.

(for example, my political compass.)
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.62

215 posted on 12/09/2008 6:35:34 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Jim Robinson
The forum FreeRepublic.com was once a place for conservative men to bash feminism freely and often. It was the favorite topic for years. But, from 2006-2008, most anti-feminist FReepers have had their accounts deleted....yadda, yadda, yadda

Wow, sounds like someone (the article writer) is insecure with his own sexuality and is blaming it on FR because it doesn't have enough feminism bashing for him.. apparently he doesn't read enough or, as I said to another poster, he is so insecure in his own belief or situation if others don't use the exact same wording or tone he wants, he takes it as a threat. I've seen rants like this before on other forums, whining and whining they or someone they liked where kicked off.. they almost always say it was because this site is 'not conservative any more'.. in reality, some I've seen, it is because they are stormfront freaks or conspiracy kooks.

216 posted on 12/09/2008 6:43:50 AM PST by mnehring
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To: jacquej
Wonder where this guy gets his misinformation?

It is the infamous Rorschach Test. What he sees is a reflection of what is in himself, not what is actually on the site. If you hold this image up, he would see a feminist threat to his sexuality.

217 posted on 12/09/2008 6:49:06 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Jim Robinson
Peterson is confused, disoriented and delusional. I question whether he has visited FR often enough to form an opinion, but it may simply be that he is unable to understand the majority of the discussions that take place here.
218 posted on 12/09/2008 6:58:54 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bcsco; mnehrling; Jim Robinson

As you describe it I’ve no problem. Only why not do it on a personal basis instead of it being an FR thing (at least that’s how I interpret your idea...I may be wrong).
***It’s too much work for one person, and such a project would need access to the ability to post Excel files on FR.

Set up your own matrix and see how people fall in place on it. I believe mnehrling had a matrix he posted during the primaries that showed where candidates fell on the political spectrum.
***That was Mnehrling’s matrix, his own interpretation, right? This would be the self-selecting matrix that FReeper answers himself. For instance, for Immigration we might have a question like: Amnesty for Illegal aliens.
1= I agree 2= I think we might have to bite the bullet on this 3= I’m in the middle or can’t make up my mind 4= I think we should find other answers, Amnesty will just encourage more illegal aliens in the future. 5= I disagree
If there were 50 questions and each FReeper could allocate 200 points (or whatever, it doesn’t really matter), then we could see that if they dedicate zero points of importance to this issue and they answer 1, that’s about all I would need to know in how to approach them. Zero points, and they’re logging onto a thread? Fishy. 10 points and they answer 1, it could be an interesting discussion.

Like you, I tend to stay away from those who’ve outed themselves; Paulettes especially.
***Then we need a tool where everyone outs themselves. It is the process of hiding that gives RINOs their power.

Not just because of their political stance but because they pontificate and patronize anyone not in lock step with them. THAT’S why I don’t want something like this to become overbearing. I’ve experienced it from the other end from those yokels.
***Once the yokel is outed, it makes the FReeping interaction with them much simpler and straightforward.

So, go for it. If Jim believes it’s something beneficial for FR, fine. But FR has existed for how many years without such a tool, is it really necessary now?
***Yes, it is necessary. Let’s find out if Jim believes it would be beneficial. From his initial response to it, it looks like a no, but look how you have turned around on this issue once you got past the dismissive stage.

I simply believe in our monitoring our interactions ourselves, calling on the Viking Kitties when necessary to deal with the obvious Troll. It works when needed and also provides an amount of good entertainment; especially when they let us play awhile. That’s something I look forward to...
***This isn’t a tool for dealing with trolls. It is a tool for dealing with people who claim to be conservative but when the rubber meets the road, they really aren’t. They’re CINOs coming alongside the leader of the parade, whispering directions to him and then scurrying back into the crowd when the time for straightforward openness is called for.


219 posted on 12/09/2008 8:37:13 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Kevmo; bcsco
That was Mnehrling’s matrix, his own interpretation, right? This would be the self-selecting matrix that FReeper answers himself.

I think the matrix he was referring to was from On The Issues. http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm
(click on a politician and scroll to the bottom of the page for their grid)

I just see something like that as a basic starting point to compare head to head, much better for candidates than other posters. As you pointed out, and I mentioned to bcsco in another comment, it doesn't weigh each individual's issue importance.

220 posted on 12/09/2008 8:46:27 AM PST by mnehring
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