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To: aruanan

“Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth says that he was born in the City of Honolulu, in the County of Honolulu, on the Island of Oahu on August 4, 1961 at 7:24 P.M.

Obama’s FAKE Certificate of Live Birth says....”


However when the St. Petersburg Times newspaper sent a copy of the Certificate that Obama posted on his web site to the Hawaii Health Department back in June, Janice Okubo, Director of Communications for the Hawaii Health Department verified that it was genuine, not fake.
If any of the court cases ever get as far as acutal testimony before a judge and/or jury, I’m sure Obama’s attorneys will get a sworn deposition from Ms. Okubo:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/


970 posted on 12/08/2008 9:24:03 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
However when the St. Petersburg Times newspaper sent a copy of the Certificate that Obama posted on his web site to the Hawaii Health Department back in June, Janice Okubo, Director of Communications for the Hawaii Health Department verified that it was genuine, not fake.

That is not what she said.

This is what she actually said :

When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real. “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us.

They conveniently left out what she went on to say :

“When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.” Still, she acknowledges: “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”

So they can't confirm that the copy posted on the site is a legitimate copy.It may resemble one, but it can't be authenticated .

972 posted on 12/08/2008 9:51:23 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: jamese777
However when the St. Petersburg Times newspaper sent a copy of the Certificate that Obama posted on his web site to the Hawaii Health Department back in June, Janice Okubo, Director of Communications for the Hawaii Health Department verified that it was genuine, not fake.

She did not verify that it was Obama's genuine COLB only that it was a Hawaiian COLB. Yes, it was made using a genuine COLB and at first glance nothing appeared to Okubo to be grossly out of place. That was all revealed subsequently and is beyond dispute. She made a bad call based on a cursory, superficial examination. She was taken in as were a lot of other people, as intended by the Obama campaign. They were caught.

We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.

“It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us.



986 posted on 12/09/2008 4:25:19 AM PST by aruanan
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To: jamese777

No, the Hawaii Health Dept verified they had A birth certificate, not that what he posted was geniune.

And your claim is not even what your article says.


1,004 posted on 12/09/2008 8:47:33 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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