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Supreme Court rejects Obama case
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/120808zor.pdf ^

Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment

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To: andy58-in-nh

“I understand the pride of black folks who have seen elected as President one of their own. That is not something to be taken lightly, no matter how misguided their Champion may be, as I believe he is.”

Oh I know you are so very right. This would be yanking a dream right out from under them and they would NEVER say it was anything other than racism. They would never say anything different.

Sadly though, I don’t see him being President mending any fences in that regard either. I see it emboldening racist thugs, particularly out of Chicago and Wright types of folks.

I find it sad that they were sold an illegal bill of goods. They got ripped off once again.


881 posted on 12/08/2008 4:59:51 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Old Sarge

Old Sarge, I am not dead.

How it will jappen should you be around will amaze you. Have you seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

Well, I can tell you there is a buzz amoung common folk. Fot instance a friend works in a doctors office. She over hears people openly talking about what isn’t discussed. The words spoken concern if he tries to do this there will be blood in the streets, and I am ready.

This feeling peole have is driving 1.5 million NEW gun owners per month starting with October.

A friend was in a gun shop when a man came in and purchased $1,200.00 on ammo.

Anyway if it happens it will be as natural as griving to the mall. Just all of a sudden people will show up at places.


882 posted on 12/08/2008 5:00:15 PM PST by stockpirate (Left ignores Constitution except 14th admendment, can we ignore the 14th amendment?)
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To: Red Steel

Below is update from Leo’s web site. Leo and Cort are going to be on Plains this evening beginning at 8:00. The Freeper Joe Thunder will be on Lan Lamphere at 10:30.

WROTNOWSKI APPLICATION REFERRED TO FULL COURT BY JUSTICE SCALIA - DISTRIBUTED FOR CONFERENCE ON DEC 12 - SUPPLEMENTAL BRIEF TO BE SUBMITTED TOMORROW
Posted in Uncategorized on December 8, 2008 by naturalborncitizen
PRESS RELEASE: 12.08.08 7:20 pm
Cort Wrotnowski’s emergency application for a stay and/or injunction as to the Electoral College meeting on Dec. 15 was today referred to the full Court by the Honorable Associate Justice Anotonin Scalia. It has been distributed for Conference of Friday December 12. The official case name is WROTNOWSKI v. BYSIEWICZ, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A469.

The Wrotnowski Supreme Court application was prepared by Leo Donofrio, Esq. and is centered on the same issue from Donofrio’s case which was discussed by the Supreme Court in its conference of December 5 - whether Barack Obama is not eligible to the office of President due to the fact that he was a British citizen at the time of his birth.

Tomorrow, Dec. 9 - Cort Wrotnowski will submit a supplemental brief concerning the newly discovered ineligibility of twenty-first President Chester Arthur due to his having been born as a British subject. This is relevant to the case at hand in that Justice Gray - who wrote the seminal opinion in United States v. Wong Kim Arc - was appointed by Chester Arthur.

The Wong Kim Arc case involves an important historical opinion that SCOTUS justices will certainly consider as to the Obama natural born citizen issue.

The recent discovery calls into question the motivations of both Arthur and Gray since Arthur’s father was a British subject not naturalized at the time of Chester’s birth. In fact, William Arthur was not naturalized until 1843, fourteen years after Chester was born. In the light of historical retrospection, Justice Gray’s decision in Wong Kim Arc seems tailor made to the circumstances of Arthur’s birth.

Chester Arthur was born in 1829. The 14th Amendment wasn’t ratified until 1868, and Wong Kim Arc was decided in 1898. But under United States law in 1829 it’s not clear that Arthur would have even been considered a United States citizen at the time of his birth, let alone a “natural born citizen” eligible to be President. At best, he would have been a dual citizen of Great Britain and the United States.

It was proved earlier this week, by various articles in the Brooklyn Eagle printed circa 1880, and other authorities, that when Arthur was on the campaign trail as Garfield’s running mate he lied many times about his father’s emigration record, his parents’ life in Canada before coming to the United States, and his father’s age. Chester also burned his papers and falsified his birth year. It appears now that he was doing so to conceal the POTUS eligibility issue.

Every other President (who didn’t become eligible under the Article 2, Section 1 grandfather clause) was born to American citizen parents in the United States. The fact that he was a British subject at birth was first reported on Friday Dec. 5.

It must now be questioned whether the relationship between Chester Arthur and Justice Gray was influenced by Arthur’s eligibility problems and whether those issues effected Gray’s opinion and vote in Wong Kim Arc.

It must also be considered that the integrity of Justice Gray’s SCOTUS appointment might have been called into question if Chester Arthur’s POTUS ineligibility issues had become known.

All of the above is relevant to the issue of whether Barack Obama is a natural born citizen in that the core Supreme Court opinion in Wong Kim Arc must now be re-evaluated in lieu of the fact that the Justice who wrote the opinion was appointed by Chester Arthur.

Leo Donofrio will accompany Cort Wrotnowski to Washington D.C. tomorrow and both will be available for comment at 11:00 AM on the steps of the Supreme Court. This is not a rally, protest or vigil. If the media would like to discuss this historical brief and the issues discussed above, Donofrio and Wrotnowski will be available to answer any questions thereto.

Leo C. Donofrio, Esq.

Cort Wrotnowski


883 posted on 12/08/2008 5:02:21 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: autumnraine

Who ever filled it out can hardly print in legible script!
A brilliant ROCK to say the least...


884 posted on 12/08/2008 5:02:41 PM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: Sharrukin

Are you citing this to show that it is easy to get a fake Hawaiian Certificate of Birth? His documents were forged by Chinese supporters, right?

My question is: Do you think Obama was born in Kenya and his documents are forged? Or do you think he was born in Hawaii but is ineligible because of his adoptive father’s nationality? Or something else?

My main frustration with this whole thing is that there seem to be several competing theories, each contradicting the other and some folks are throwing out bits of all of them as arguments. I certainly can buy the frustration with not having the vault certificate. But we run the risk of accepting things out of sheer hope, not strong facts.

So then the response becomes, “release it”. I agree, but no court has compelled it. There is not stipulation in the Constitution as to manner of proof of natural birth, so he is not compelled under it. I believe he has an ethical obligation, but so what? That and a buck will get you—not much!


885 posted on 12/08/2008 5:10:23 PM PST by pa mom
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To: autumnraine
I find it sad that they were sold an illegal bill of goods. They got ripped off once again.

For that we can thank Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the rest of the race hustlers.

In a sane world, we would have elected Dr. Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell: brilliant and proud black men who really would have brought racial harmony to all those except for whom skin color remains a source of power and not a meaningless accident of birth.

886 posted on 12/08/2008 5:14:03 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: seekthetruth

I’m listening to Wrotnowski speak about the Chester Arthur case now on plains radio... just mentioned Free Republic. :-)


887 posted on 12/08/2008 5:15:39 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: LucyT

Not only the ears, but the hairline and forehead.


888 posted on 12/08/2008 5:16:43 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; dman4384; xzins; Lord_Calvinus; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD; enat; Gamecock; ...
At the risk of sounding cynical, the Supreme Court long ago stopped interpreting the Constitution. They simply make it up as they go. I'm not surprise at this and this outcome should have been reasonably obvious to anyone. This is simply another instance, albeit a most blatant one, of where the Court ignores the Constitution.

BTW-If this seems surprising consider how religion, science or any other discipline operates today. People do what they want to do or make claims they have history on their side. There is little hard core analysis anymore and those who do it are ostracized for sharing any data that may disagree with popular opinion.

889 posted on 12/08/2008 5:19:33 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: pa mom

Already posted.


890 posted on 12/08/2008 5:21:05 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: VigilantAmerican

Where’s Ron Paul when you need him? Isn’t he a Constitutionalist? Maybe he will pick up the banner and run with it.


891 posted on 12/08/2008 5:25:50 PM PST by jch10
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To: Sibre Fan

Souter didn’t distribute the case when he received it, he trew it in the trash can... be as negative as you like..you may be very surprized in the end...;-)


892 posted on 12/08/2008 5:31:31 PM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: pa mom

The point is that Sun Yat-sen was born in China and easily acquired a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. The implications are rather obvious. What one man can do, another can do.

The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth is one of the base documents in Hawaii that are commonly called a Birth Certificate.

I don’t know what the truth is. Obama is spending vast quantities of cash in making sure no one has access to the documents to prevent the truth from coming out.

What truth?

Don’t know?

I personally suspect he was born in Hawaii and is hiding something else, but I also believe there is a strong possibility he was born elsewhere. His grandmother says he was born in Kenya so that is entirely possible.

What we do know is that there is nothing in the released record that precludes a foreign birth.


893 posted on 12/08/2008 5:32:11 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: stockpirate

I also saw “Amerika” when it aired once and never again.

And it only took an addition two decades for that bit of fiction to become reality.


894 posted on 12/08/2008 5:36:06 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Fred Nerks

Malcolm X was better looking than O. I think Malcolm was fairly light skinned.


895 posted on 12/08/2008 5:40:26 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Munz
Check this out and tell me what you think ... are they really that wrong?

The hypocrisy of American democracy

Not wrong at all. That is a very clear description of modern American government and its history.

896 posted on 12/08/2008 5:45:54 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: NOBAMA in 08

You are correct. The standard procedure is for the SECOND Justice to distribute it. The first Justice rules on it (or so it appears), THEN, the second Jusice refers it to the full court.


897 posted on 12/08/2008 5:47:42 PM PST by Sibre Fan
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To: Frantzie

one of the very few colour images of Malcolm X

images.

images.

898 posted on 12/08/2008 5:49:18 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: jveritas; rlmorel
Actually, for me anyway, this case has always been one of 'identity'. A Certification of Live Birth vs a poorly fabricated published Certificate of Birth would have been a nice start.

Too much of Obama's history and documentation, from schools, travel, associations have been placed on Black out. In the end, we haven't much to go on determining who Obama really is. Other than his half sister Maya and Neil Abercrombie (who is on record saying he knew his father) over here, no one comes forward having known him, which isn't surprising since he'd spent about ten years of his life here, maybe less. Those years were while he was a preteen and teenager. All we have to go on is his own autobiography which in itself is doubtful.

Is he Barry Dunham, Barry Soetoro, or Barack Hussein Obama jr? As I said, this is about identity.
899 posted on 12/08/2008 5:53:32 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: BIGLOOK

FREEPERS: Listen on Plains Radio Network now at:
http://www.plainsradio.com/

Bookmark Leo Donofrio’s web site below and read all his information. Please check back for updates often. Leo is working with Cort on his case in Conference for Friday.Justice Scalia referred Cort’s case for Friday 12/12 Conference which is EARLIER than it would have normally gone to Conference. Might be a good sign.:)
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

This is not over yet. Visit Freeper Joe Thunder’s web site and read about the Press Conference that he has on tape and will post tomorrow. The room was FULL of MSM but you won’t see it on TV!
http://freedommarch.org/Home_Page.html


900 posted on 12/08/2008 5:59:39 PM PST by seekthetruth
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