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To: Sharrukin

Are you citing this to show that it is easy to get a fake Hawaiian Certificate of Birth? His documents were forged by Chinese supporters, right?

My question is: Do you think Obama was born in Kenya and his documents are forged? Or do you think he was born in Hawaii but is ineligible because of his adoptive father’s nationality? Or something else?

My main frustration with this whole thing is that there seem to be several competing theories, each contradicting the other and some folks are throwing out bits of all of them as arguments. I certainly can buy the frustration with not having the vault certificate. But we run the risk of accepting things out of sheer hope, not strong facts.

So then the response becomes, “release it”. I agree, but no court has compelled it. There is not stipulation in the Constitution as to manner of proof of natural birth, so he is not compelled under it. I believe he has an ethical obligation, but so what? That and a buck will get you—not much!


885 posted on 12/08/2008 5:10:23 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom

The point is that Sun Yat-sen was born in China and easily acquired a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. The implications are rather obvious. What one man can do, another can do.

The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth is one of the base documents in Hawaii that are commonly called a Birth Certificate.

I don’t know what the truth is. Obama is spending vast quantities of cash in making sure no one has access to the documents to prevent the truth from coming out.

What truth?

Don’t know?

I personally suspect he was born in Hawaii and is hiding something else, but I also believe there is a strong possibility he was born elsewhere. His grandmother says he was born in Kenya so that is entirely possible.

What we do know is that there is nothing in the released record that precludes a foreign birth.


893 posted on 12/08/2008 5:32:11 PM PST by Sharrukin
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