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1 posted on 12/06/2008 10:54:53 PM PST by fishhound
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To: fishhound

Commies looking for an excuse.


2 posted on 12/06/2008 10:56:37 PM PST by BenLurkin
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Riots are nothing more then an excuse to be destructive. Other countries need to take the advice of the Korean shop owners in LA and defend their property with deadly force.


3 posted on 12/06/2008 10:59:21 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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The officers said their patrol car had been attacked by 30 youths throwing stones and other objects. When they attempted to arrest the youths, they were attacked again and one of the officers fired three shots, killing the boy, the statement said.

Gee, maybe you shouldn't attack policemen. Hmm, stone-throwing 'youths'. I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask for the religion of the 'victim'

4 posted on 12/06/2008 11:01:41 PM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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ARTICLE SNIPPET from the link in post no. 1:

"A group calling itself the United Anti-Capitalist Left called a march for Monday in Athens against the killing. Karamanlis's centre-right government, which holds a slender one-seat majority in parliament, has faced a series of protests from unions and students.

In recent months, the Socialist opposition has taken the lead in opinion polls amid anger at public scandals and the government's handling of the economy."

5 posted on 12/06/2008 11:05:35 PM PST by Cindy
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To: fishhound

This is very sad. Greece would sink into nothingness if it weren’t for tourism. Anything like this unrest will cut into that and hurt them economically.


6 posted on 12/06/2008 11:06:33 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: fishhound

Sharpton’s probably looking up on a map to see where the city of Greece is and getting ready to book tickets there.


10 posted on 12/06/2008 11:12:30 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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Geez, Greece sounds like the kinda place that would sentence you to death by forcing you to drink hemlock.


12 posted on 12/06/2008 11:23:15 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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I wonder, what the cause of said youths being armed with Molotov's and stones to begin with? something's fishy about this
14 posted on 12/07/2008 12:10:54 AM PST by blueplum
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To: fishhound

Okay. Read the article and I am wondering WHY poeple are riotong other then they have an excuse too do so and why the Police were arrested for shooting a criminal before an complete investigation.
Boy Shot Dead is the headline. Why not idiot that attacked Police Cars shot dead?


16 posted on 12/07/2008 3:00:23 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: fishhound

There are riots in Greece basically once a month or so. Last year a guy got killed at a riot after a Women’s volleyball match. Rioting is just part of their culture for whatever reason.


25 posted on 12/08/2008 11:15:50 AM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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outside the National Technical University of Athens





ATHENS, Greece – Hundreds of youths angered by the fatal police shooting of a teenager rampaged through Greece's two largest cities for a second day Sunday in some of the worst rioting the country has seen in years.

Gangs smashed stores, torched cars and erected burning barricades in the streets of Athens and Thessaloniki. Riot police clashed with groups of mostly self-styled anarchists throwing Molotov cocktails, rocks and bottles. Clouds of tear gas hung in the air, sending passers-by scurrying for cover.

Rioting in several cities, including Hania in Crete and cities in northern Greece, began within hours of the death Saturday night of a 15-year-old shot by police in Exarchia. The downtown Athens district of bars, music clubs and restaurants is seen as the anarchists' home base.

Soon stores, banks and cars were ablaze.

The rioting was some of the most severe Greece has seen in years. The last time a teenager was killed in a police shooting, during a demonstration in 1985, it sparked weeks of rioting. In 1999, a visit to Greece by then US President Bill Clinton sparked violent demonstrations in Athens that left stores smashed and burned.

The two officers involved in Saturday's shooting have been arrested and charged, one with premeditated manslaughter and the illegal use of a weapon, and the other as an accomplice. They are to appear before a court Wednesday. They and the Exarchia precinct police chief have been suspended.

Interior Minister Prokopis Pavlopoulos, whose offer to resign was rejected Sunday, has promised a thorough investigation.

"It is inconceivable for there not to be punishment when a person loses their life, particularly when it is a child," he said. "The taking of life is something that is not excusable in a democracy."

Police said the two officers involved claimed they were attacked by a group of youths and, when they confronted the youths, one fired three shots and the other threw a stun grenade.

Violence broke out again Sunday afternoon in Athens and Thessaloniki during demonstrations to protest the shooting. "Cops, pigs, murderers," protesters chanted.

Police said 24 policemen were injured in Athens in overnight riots that started Saturday, and another 13 on Sunday, while seven people were arrested and another 15 were detained.

As night fell, groups of youths, some masked and others wearing motorcycle helmets, set trash cans alight and overturned cars to erect burning barricades on streets around the Athens Polytechnic -- which, like all universities, is protected by law from police intrusion. Some could be seen walking on the roof of the Polytechnic, taunting police.

Violence in the capital began to die down late Sunday, after several hours of running battles between police and rioters. In Thessaloniki, a large fire could be seen burning at the city's university.

A blurry video shot by a bystander that purportedly shows the shooting Saturday has been aired on Greek television and posted on the Internet. Two sounds that could be gunshots can be heard, but the image is too blurry and distant to show the events clearly.

Greece has seen frequent and sometimes violent demonstrations recently against the conservative government of Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis. The opposition Socialists are now consistently ahead in opinion polls.

Dozens of stores in central Athens went up in flames or saw their storefronts smashed. At least two buildings were destroyed by fire, as was a Ford car dealership. Streets were littered with chunks of paving stones and rocks thrown at riot police, as well as shattered glass from storefronts and banks.

"I understand the anger and the right to demonstrate it," Pavlopoulos said Sunday night. "What is inconceivable is the raw violence that undermines social peace and turns against the property of innocent people."

Violence often breaks out between riot police and anarchists during demonstrations in Greece. Anarchist groups are also blamed for late-night firebombings of targets such as banks and diplomatic vehicles.

http://english.sina.com/world/p/2008/1207/203182.html


This is typical of the left to create an issue where none should exist. There are mixed reports this "kid" was provoking the police. There is also reports of the kid about to throw a molitov cocktail. This is the left we are talking about, they do not need a reason just an excuse.

This is what we are in for with the current administration. Just look at the sit in at the window factory after bank of america pulled the rolling credit line.
26 posted on 12/08/2008 12:30:49 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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outside the National Technical University of Athens





ATHENS, Greece – Hundreds of youths angered by the fatal police shooting of a teenager rampaged through Greece's two largest cities for a second day Sunday in some of the worst rioting the country has seen in years.

Gangs smashed stores, torched cars and erected burning barricades in the streets of Athens and Thessaloniki. Riot police clashed with groups of mostly self-styled anarchists throwing Molotov cocktails, rocks and bottles. Clouds of tear gas hung in the air, sending passers-by scurrying for cover.

Rioting in several cities, including Hania in Crete and cities in northern Greece, began within hours of the death Saturday night of a 15-year-old shot by police in Exarchia. The downtown Athens district of bars, music clubs and restaurants is seen as the anarchists' home base.

Soon stores, banks and cars were ablaze.

The rioting was some of the most severe Greece has seen in years. The last time a teenager was killed in a police shooting, during a demonstration in 1985, it sparked weeks of rioting. In 1999, a visit to Greece by then US President Bill Clinton sparked violent demonstrations in Athens that left stores smashed and burned.

The two officers involved in Saturday's shooting have been arrested and charged, one with premeditated manslaughter and the illegal use of a weapon, and the other as an accomplice. They are to appear before a court Wednesday. They and the Exarchia precinct police chief have been suspended.

Interior Minister Prokopis Pavlopoulos, whose offer to resign was rejected Sunday, has promised a thorough investigation.

"It is inconceivable for there not to be punishment when a person loses their life, particularly when it is a child," he said. "The taking of life is something that is not excusable in a democracy."

Police said the two officers involved claimed they were attacked by a group of youths and, when they confronted the youths, one fired three shots and the other threw a stun grenade.

Violence broke out again Sunday afternoon in Athens and Thessaloniki during demonstrations to protest the shooting. "Cops, pigs, murderers," protesters chanted.

Police said 24 policemen were injured in Athens in overnight riots that started Saturday, and another 13 on Sunday, while seven people were arrested and another 15 were detained.

As night fell, groups of youths, some masked and others wearing motorcycle helmets, set trash cans alight and overturned cars to erect burning barricades on streets around the Athens Polytechnic -- which, like all universities, is protected by law from police intrusion. Some could be seen walking on the roof of the Polytechnic, taunting police.

Violence in the capital began to die down late Sunday, after several hours of running battles between police and rioters. In Thessaloniki, a large fire could be seen burning at the city's university.

A blurry video shot by a bystander that purportedly shows the shooting Saturday has been aired on Greek television and posted on the Internet. Two sounds that could be gunshots can be heard, but the image is too blurry and distant to show the events clearly.

Greece has seen frequent and sometimes violent demonstrations recently against the conservative government of Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis. The opposition Socialists are now consistently ahead in opinion polls.

Dozens of stores in central Athens went up in flames or saw their storefronts smashed. At least two buildings were destroyed by fire, as was a Ford car dealership. Streets were littered with chunks of paving stones and rocks thrown at riot police, as well as shattered glass from storefronts and banks.

"I understand the anger and the right to demonstrate it," Pavlopoulos said Sunday night. "What is inconceivable is the raw violence that undermines social peace and turns against the property of innocent people."

Violence often breaks out between riot police and anarchists during demonstrations in Greece. Anarchist groups are also blamed for late-night firebombings of targets such as banks and diplomatic vehicles.

http://english.sina.com/world/p/2008/1207/203182.html


This is typical of the left to create an issue where none should exist. There are mixed reports this "kid" was provoking the police. There is also reports of the kid about to throw a molitov cocktail. This is the left we are talking about, they do not need a reason just an excuse.

This is what we are in for with the current administration. Just look at the sit in at the window factory after bank of america pulled the rolling credit line.
27 posted on 12/08/2008 12:32:25 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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One thing is to hold a protest march, but another thing is to have Molotov cocktails on hand while doing so. No doubt these students had rioting in mind all along, with the Greek left enabling them.

While the teenager’s death is tragic enough, it is equally tragic how unprincipled people exploited it to further their violent agendas.


30 posted on 12/08/2008 1:09:29 PM PST by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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Greece is burning.


32 posted on 12/08/2008 1:15:42 PM PST by NeoCaveman (posting from the office of the bitter clingers)
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Greek ping


42 posted on 12/08/2008 2:12:46 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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A fifteen-year old who is rioting is not a “boy.” He is a dangerous criminal.


52 posted on 12/08/2008 5:17:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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I find it interesting how this story is being told in German newspapers. Here is an English excerpt from Der Spiegel (the headline is more to the point than most everything else I've read in US media):

Riots Throw Greece into Deep Democratic Crisis

There's violence on the streets and distrust is growing: The serious riots are merely the visible manifestation a far deeper loss of faith in the government. Many normal Greeks share the same views as the Black Bloc anarchists: They consider the country's elite to be corrupt and incompetent.

-- snip --

It's the daily dose of anarchy in Athens, that entered into its fifth day on Wednesday.

The Greek riots are a textbook example of how deep a country can sink if it lacks democracy's most important element, the support and acceptance of its people. The scales of democracy have tipped here, and one inevitably gets the impression these days that there are few left who still trust the government to find the right path. Their experiences with its scandals, cronyism and corruption are too deeply seated. And it is in their unanimous rejection of the elite that both business people and the Black Bloc anarchists have found common ground.

-- snip --

At noon on the streets, though, the calls were "Pigs, swines, murders!"


55 posted on 12/11/2008 5:43:36 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Music washes away the dust of every day life. ---Art Blakey)
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