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It's been a long battle, but we won.
1 posted on 12/05/2008 11:19:08 AM PST by P8riot
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To: P8riot

YES!!!


2 posted on 12/05/2008 11:19:50 AM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: P8riot

:-)


3 posted on 12/05/2008 11:20:35 AM PST by GOP Poet
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You almost need a gun to survive in a national park with all the wild animals and such. Illegals, pot growers, bears ...


5 posted on 12/05/2008 11:22:10 AM PST by LiberConservative
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Sad that we need a permit or permission to use our Rights.
6 posted on 12/05/2008 11:22:18 AM PST by BGHater (Obama is a Neocon.)
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I always found it ironic that the Federal Government has stricter gun control laws than D.C.


7 posted on 12/05/2008 11:22:55 AM PST by 11th Commandment (2008 was an historical election - the first time a socialist was elected President.)
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Interior Announces Final Firearms Policy Update
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Assistant Secretary of the Interior for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty today announced that the Department of the Interior has finalized updated regulations governing the possession of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. The final rule, which updates existing regulations, would allow an individual to carry a concealed weapon in national parks and wildlife refuges if, and only if, the individual is authorized to carry a concealed weapon under state law in the state in which the national park or refuge is located. The update has been submitted to the Federal Register for publication and is available to the public on www.doi.gov.

Existing regulations regarding the carrying of firearms remain otherwise unchanged, particularly limitations on poaching and target practice and prohibitions on carrying firearms in federal buildings.

“America was founded on the idea that the federal and state governments work together to serve the public and preserve our natural resources,” Laverty said. “The Department’s final regulation respects this tradition by allowing individuals to carry concealed firearms in federal park units and refuges to the extent that they could lawfully do so under state law. This is the same basic approach adopted by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and the United States Forest Service (USFS), both of which allow visitors to carry weapons consistent with applicable federal and state laws.”

On February 22, 2008, Interior Secretary Kempthorne responded to letters from 51 Senators, both Democrats and Republicans, as well as from the Chairman and Ranking Member of the House Natural Resources Committee, urging him to update existing regulations that prohibit the carrying of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. In his response, the Secretary directed Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty “to develop and propose for public comment by April 30 Federal regulations that will update firearms policies on these lands to reflect existing Federal laws (such as those prohibiting weapons in Federal buildings) and the laws by which the host states govern transporting and carrying of firearms on their analogous public lands.”

Changes in the final regulations from those originally proposed in April were developed as the result of public comments. In particular, comments expressed concern about the feasibility of implementing regulations which directly linked the carrying of concealed firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges to the ability of an individual to carry a concealed firearm on analogous state lands. The final regulations remove that potential logistical hurdle.

The existing regulations, as currently in effect, were adopted in 1981 for national wildlife refuges and in 1983 for national parks. Since that time many states have enacted new firearms policies. Currently, 48 states have passed legislation allowing for the lawful possession of concealed weapons.

“The Department believes that in managing parks and refuges we should, as appropriate, make every effort to give the greatest respect to the democratic judgments of State legislatures with respect to concealed firearms,” said Laverty. “Federal agencies have a responsibility to recognize the expertise of the States in this area, and federal regulations should be developed and implemented in a manner that respects state prerogatives and authority.”


8 posted on 12/05/2008 11:22:55 AM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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A knock-me-over-with-a-feather BTT. Well done.


9 posted on 12/05/2008 11:22:55 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: P8riot
The formal Final Ruling.
11 posted on 12/05/2008 11:28:25 AM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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The rule overturns a 25-year-old regulation


13 posted on 12/05/2008 11:31:59 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Enjoy it for 46 days.
14 posted on 12/05/2008 11:33:46 AM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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How long before the BO administration overturns it?


15 posted on 12/05/2008 11:34:45 AM PST by raybbr
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I'm afraid this will be a short-lived victory. No doubt Obama or Holder will reinstate the ban before next summer.
17 posted on 12/05/2008 11:35:12 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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Hunting is allowed in most Pennsylvania stste parks already.


19 posted on 12/05/2008 11:41:03 AM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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You still need the concealed carry permit to do this, though.

Carolyn

20 posted on 12/05/2008 11:41:59 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Good news. Read FReeper ctdonath2's summary in post #8.

We'll see how long it takes the Obama administration to reverse this policy...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

26 posted on 12/05/2008 11:54:24 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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This is GREAT news.

But, if I’m walking around the National Park and walk into the Visitor Center... is that not a Federal Building?


28 posted on 12/05/2008 12:00:16 PM PST by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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I can’t believe it...you mean now I can actually defend myself when I run across armed Mexican drug cartels growing dope in the forests next to me? Cool.


30 posted on 12/05/2008 12:02:26 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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The actual rule change:
Title 36, Chapter 1, Part 2.4(h) Notwithstanding any other provision in this Chapter, a person may possess, carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national park area in accordance with the laws of the state in which the national park area, or that portion thereof, is located, except as otherwise prohibited by applicable federal law.

Title 50, Chapter 1, Part 27.42(e) Notwithstanding any other provision in this Chapter, persons may possess, carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national wildlife refuge in accordance with the laws of the state in which the wildlife refuge, or that portion thereof, is located, except as otherwise prohibited by applicable federal law.

Now, to make two key points abundantly clear:

- ONLY CONCEALED CARRY IS ALLOWED
- STATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY

For the thick among us, that means:

- Open carry is not allowed (as in you don't reveal the thing unless you have a very good compelling reason to)
- State law is not trumped in any way

34 posted on 12/05/2008 12:15:58 PM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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Great! I’ve always hated being chased by a bear or cougar into a National Forest (where guns are legal) so I could defend myself ....


36 posted on 12/05/2008 12:17:30 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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Great news!

Quite frankly, with the incoming fascist, er, Obama Administration ready to chop off heads, I didn't think they would have the nerve to do this. At least somebody has some stones.

Well done!!

37 posted on 12/05/2008 12:19:13 PM PST by Gritty (The right to keep and bear arms is the palladium of the liberties of a republic-Justice Joseph Story)
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