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To: penelopesire
will be the first one to concede the argument of Obama’s eligibilty,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I will never concede his elegibility. The reason why is that he has concealed his true place of birth, and spent a million bucks doing it.

If due process results in his being found to be born in the USA , for example, Because THAT WAS DETERMINED BY THE STATE OF HAWAII AND WE ACCEPT HAWAII LAW FOR ARTICLE II AS A STATE RIGHT, ( rather than looking into his actual physical place of birth), that will result in a horrible future for our nation.

I will fight him clear down the line , just the way Bush was teated, and give Obama even more than the Dems have handed out to Bush.

He will NEVER be my president.

232 posted on 12/05/2008 10:37:42 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Candor7
“If due process results in his being found to be born in the USA , for example, Because THAT WAS DETERMINED BY THE STATE OF HAWAII AND WE ACCEPT HAWAII LAW FOR ARTICLE II AS A STATE RIGHT, ( rather than looking into his actual physical place of birth), that will result in a horrible future for our nation.
I will fight him clear down the line , just the way Bush was teated, and give Obama even more than the Dems have handed out to Bush.
He will NEVER be my president.”

I understand your statement,but believe you are missing one point. He will NEVER be my President either but my reason is the fact that EVEN IF he was born on US soil (Hawaii) he is STILL NOT a “natural born” citizen because his father was NOT a citizen. So I do not even need to see his original birth certificate. The COLB Obama released says it all. With his father from Kenya and Obama being born in Hawaii, just makes him a citizen but NOT a “natural born” citizen because his father was not a US citizen.

That is why Leo Donofrio’s case is so strong. Obama’s place of birth is only ONE of the criteria he must meet. The place of birth must be ON US SOIL. The OTHER criteria is that his parents MUST BE US CITIZENS. His father wasn't!

McCain does not meet both of the criteria either. He meets one, and that is his parents were US citizens. But evidence shows that McCain was NOT born on US soil. The only way McCain would be considered “natural born” would be if there is proof he was born on a US base AND if that base was deemed US soil. According to Leo Donofrio, that is not the case.

I do have to wonder why the RNC and McCain never brought up Obama’s problem of not being a “natural born” US citizen. The only reason I can come up with is that they knew McCain did not qualify as a “natural born” citizen either. I honor McCain for his service to our country and supported him. This feeling I have that he was complicit in this cover up makes me extremely disappointed in him and EVERYONE in our government who obviously knew. To think that so many would trash our Constitution is hard to deal with.

I have to trust that our Supreme Court Justices will uphold our Constitution and do what is right.

238 posted on 12/06/2008 5:44:30 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Candor7

I only meant that I would do so if OBAMA proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was eligible. It doesn’t look like he is going to do that unless he is forced to by the Supreme Court. What I can’t figure out is why conservatives like David Horowitz cannot grasp the constitutional arguments for this case and would rather brand the people that have raised the issue as nutters and the ‘fringe’. After much thought, it can only mean one or two things. One is that the powers that be in our party want to run someone in the future that may have similar ‘issues’ in their view or two, they are just willing to shred the constitution in favor of domestic tranquility and mob rule. Neither are good enough arguments to abandon our constitution. PERIOD.


244 posted on 12/08/2008 6:05:19 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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